Tips for Private session ?

cbali88 · 2021-08-26 5:58

You know camwhores have some series of questions in order to make you stay in private for a longer time because their goal is to make her client stay longer so that they get paid more. Sometimes this is annoying because she keeps dodging your requests or asking huge amount of questions ,especially, if you are a person that not like insisting. What I wonder is that how a camwhore expert deal with this ? If you got a kind of strategy, please share it under this. Thanks...

2021-08-26 6:09

Maybe this will work. When the delay questions begin, answer her. And include at the end of your answer what you want her to be doing, in a friendly and non-pushy way.

"I'm from Canada. Can you undress now please?"

If she asks you another question, answer in the same manner until she gets the point.

"Yes, I like big boobs. Can you undress now please?"

sjkjhasfkjhas · (This post was last modified: 2021-08-26 6:26 by sjkjhasfkjhas.)

Like all services, pick two: fast, good, cheap.

If you have places to be, negotiate an upfront price for what you want before you start private. Then tip that amount as soon as private starts and be honest that you don't have a lot of time but you're still very interested in her.

If you feel like the private per token price should cover the cost of goods sold, then prepare for her to make it worth her while by chatting you up for 20-30 minutes before getting to the good stuff.

Or yeah, if you hate the girl and never want a pvt with her again, just keep insisting that she gets nude asap. Maybe it'll work, but she'll definitely hate you. Personally, if you're looking for a cheap quick flash, it's cheaper to just look for the girl on CW instead or use the tip menu.

2021-08-26 6:40

(2021-08-26 6:24)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: Like all services, pick two: fast, good, cheap.

If you have places to be, negotiate an upfront price for what you want before you start private. Then tip that amount as soon as private starts and be honest that you don't have a lot of time but you're still very interested in her.

If you feel like the private per token price should cover the cost of goods sold, then prepare for her to make it worth her while by chatting you up for 20-30 minutes before getting to the good stuff.

Or yeah, if you hate the girl and never want a pvt with her again, just keep insisting that she gets nude asap. Maybe it'll work, but she'll definitely hate you. Personally, if you're looking for a cheap quick flash, it's cheaper to just look for the girl on CW instead or use the tip menu.

Damn! I didnt even know that prices were negotiable. How about models on websites like streamate or lj? Do thet negotiate too?

useless · (This post was last modified: 2021-08-26 7:21 by useless.)

(2021-08-26 6:24)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: negotiate an upfront price for what you want before you start private. Then tip that amount as soon as private starts and be honest that you don't have a lot of time but you're still very interested in her.

Looks like the worst advice ever. I was scammed a couple of times by models using the strategy of paying upfront and being honest.
For example one model just went offline "accidentally" soon after receiving the upfront payment

(2021-08-26 6:40)Guest Wrote: Damn! I didnt even know that prices were negotiable. How about models on websites like streamate or lj? Do thet negotiate too?

every site that does not have fixed prices for private you can negotiate with models. some of them are positive about that, some of them have policy "no discounts whatsoever"

2021-08-26 7:19

(2021-08-26 6:59)useless Wrote:
(2021-08-26 6:24)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: negotiate an upfront price for what you want before you start private. Then tip that amount as soon as private starts and be honest that you don't have a lot of time but you're still very interested in her.

Looks like the worst advice ever. I was scammed a couple of times by models using the strategy of paying upfront and being honest.
For example one model just went offline "accidentally" soon after receiving the upfront payment

I definitely agree with you. This only works if you know the model closely. Otherwise, dont do it

markitoandre · 2021-08-26 7:19

(2021-08-26 6:59)useless Wrote:
(2021-08-26 6:24)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: negotiate an upfront price for what you want before you start private. Then tip that amount as soon as private starts and be honest that you don't have a lot of time but you're still very interested in her.

Looks like the worst advice ever. I was scammed a couple of times by models using the strategy of paying upfront and being honest.
For example one model just went offline "accidentally" soon after receiving the upfront payment

But you know you can request a refound of your tokens when happens like that

useless · (This post was last modified: 2021-08-26 7:33 by useless.)

(2021-08-26 7:19)markitoandre Wrote: [But you know you can request a refound of your tokens when happens like that

sure i know. i got my refund for one of the scams one month (!) later. for the scam with the accidental offline issue i didn't have a chance to claim the refund because the bitch was too smart and appeared to know what she was doing to stay with tokens and prevent me claiming the refund (i don't want to go in details here)

the bottom line is that you don't want your privates to end with claims for refund. you want to have fun and get what you pay for.

sjkjhasfkjhas · (This post was last modified: 2021-08-26 8:57 by sjkjhasfkjhas.)

The models are there to make money. Either you pay up and they show, or they will wait you out and take your tokens that way. As already stated, if a model scams you, and you were clear about the deal beforehand, you will 100% get your tokens back from the site. You'll get nothing if you sit in private for 30 minutes like a bitch waiting for the model to do something.

If you're constantly afraid of getting scammed, private shows aren't for you.

Newsreader · 2021-08-26 9:07

One weird way, that seemed to work with studio 'try to bleed tokens dry' models, was that YOU start asking them questions. Mix them up, so alternate between friendly questions and perverted questions.

They often try to avoid replying back, so how to distract you? They start teasing you, then they ask if you liked what you saw. You can then say yes, but still you continue asking questions etc.

Usually they start to get naked maybe 10-15 minutes earlier than other privates, trying this technique. (you have to remember, that if the model is not showing nudity in free chat, they, usually, will not show nudity within 5 minutes of a private)

2021-08-26 10:33

(2021-08-26 5:58)cbali88 Wrote: You know camwhores have some series of questions in order to make you stay in private for a longer time because their goal is to make her client stay longer so that they get paid more. Sometimes this is annoying because she keeps dodging your requests or asking huge amount of questions ,especially, if you are a person that not like insisting. What I wonder is that how a camwhore expert deal with this ? If you got a kind of strategy, please share it under this. Thanks...

weird question, you join a room and then go in pvt immediately? or don't you chat with the model before via pm, dont' you?
even more, if you take model more then one time in pvt. she is willing to do more and faster, simple as that.
but you sound like a cheapo who wants instant action and fap for 2 min.

LawnSprinkler554 · 2021-08-26 11:19

I usually just chat with them for a while in PM before, that way they already have asked you the "basics" + you can spend that conversation to find out if they charge extra for something i pvt or if it all is included in the pvt show price per minute (often these days it isn't).

2021-08-26 12:20

big tip, don't pay cam whores, just visit camwhores.tv Wink

2021-08-26 15:21

(2021-08-26 7:19)Guest Wrote:
(2021-08-26 6:59)useless Wrote:
(2021-08-26 6:24)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: negotiate an upfront price for what you want before you start private. Then tip that amount as soon as private starts and be honest that you don't have a lot of time but you're still very interested in her.

Looks like the worst advice ever. I was scammed a couple of times by models using the strategy of paying upfront and being honest.
For example one model just went offline "accidentally" soon after receiving the upfront payment

I definitely agree with you. This only works if you know the model closely. Otherwise, dont do it

I’ve done lots of true privates across mfc and cb. I have have never been scammed by any girls on mfc. Expectations not met, sure, but never scammed. On cb, scammers run rampant. I’ve paid for private shows only to be immediately banned from the room after I send the tip. (Which is weird…don’t they want more tips?). Anyways, from my experience the girls who work for themselves or at their home, haven’t scammed me, but all my scams were from mainly Southeast Asia studio girls.

2021-08-26 15:24

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2021-08-26 15:25

(2021-08-26 5:58)cbali88 Wrote: You know camwhores have some series of questions in order to make you stay in private for a longer time because their goal is to make her client stay longer so that they get paid more. Sometimes this is annoying because she keeps dodging your requests or asking huge amount of questions ,especially, if you are a person that not like insisting. What I wonder is that how a camwhore expert deal with this ? If you got a kind of strategy, please share it under this. Thanks...

Talk to them. You don't have to be all long-winded, but at least mention your expectations; whether its a cum show, to see them naked, etc.

This really shouldn't be that difficult. I assume that you don't go to a restaurant, sit down and just eat whatever random dish they bring out without placing an order.

Also, a camwhore who typically does cum shows might not be up to one at the moment. Maybe she's on the rag, or the previous guy fucked her ass with a hitachi and she needs a few minutes. Regardless, without a simple upfront chat, you just got a shit show from a whore that normally delivers.

And if they're dragging their feet, and you had set expectations prior to the show, then a simple "let's start", or "keep going" or "don't stop" easily nudges them back on track.

Finally, they're generally not going to have their fist up their cunts in the first 30-seconds. They're going to tease, then undress, and then the show begins. But if you're 6-8 minutes in and it hasn't gotten good, then that's on you. (Granted, I'm old school and follow a strip club baseline, so the 6-8 minutes will likely vary from member to member and model to model.)

LawnSprinkler554 · 2021-09-03 13:45

(2021-08-26 8:56)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: The models are there to make money. Either you pay up and they show, or they will wait you out and take your tokens that way. As already stated, if a model scams you, and you were clear about the deal beforehand, you will 100% get your tokens back from the site. You'll get nothing if you sit in private for 30 minutes like a bitch waiting for the model to do something.

If you're constantly afraid of getting scammed, private shows aren't for you.

I'm curious tho, how do the admins of CB decide that you were in the right in such a scenario tho?
Are they able to go back and read chat logs and such or do you have to have screenshots/video as proof yourself or what?

2021-09-03 14:39

(2021-09-03 13:45)LawnSprinkler554 Wrote:
(2021-08-26 8:56)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: The models are there to make money. Either you pay up and they show, or they will wait you out and take your tokens that way. As already stated, if a model scams you, and you were clear about the deal beforehand, you will 100% get your tokens back from the site. You'll get nothing if you sit in private for 30 minutes like a bitch waiting for the model to do something.

If you're constantly afraid of getting scammed, private shows aren't for you.

I'm curious tho, how do the admins of CB decide that you were in the right in such a scenario tho?
Are they able to go back and read chat logs and such or do you have to have screenshots/video as proof yourself or what?

Not sure about CB, and things may have changed over time since I last tried, but on MFC, if you complain about a show, I don't even think they look at anything. They just give the refund. There are a handful of limits to this.

Sometimes they push back, but a following disagreeing comment back to them always does the truck
They generally want that if the show is not going your way, for you to bounce by 5 minutes in. If you're a little longer, it's fine, but anything costing 1000 tokens or more, becomes a hard-cap and they just won't give a refund.
If you're a chronic refund requester, they'll eventually tell you tough shit. Once every 6 months probably works. It may even be more leant (once every 3 months, once a month?)

In short, I don't think site admins do any investigation. They just see if the amount is under the cap, and if you're not always complaining. Not sure if the site eats these refunds, or if they actually remove the tokens from the model's earning; however, that really shouldn't matter (although, I do believe they remove it from the model's earnings).

2021-09-05 17:01

I don't usually have many issues with this. Just discuss things with her before the show, come to an agreement on what will happen in the show and how long of a show you're planning on getting. Also, try to be polite and respectful, even if they say they don't do the type of show you're looking to see. They may be camwhores, but they're more receptive and agreeable when you're nice to them.

If things are looking like they're not going the way you discussed, or she starts delaying, just end the show and tell her "this is not what we discussed." If you've been polite about things, 99 times out of 100 she'll promise to do better if you start the show back up. It's up to you at that point to decide if it's worth the risk, or if you should cut your losses and try to get a refund from the website admins.

2021-09-05 17:24

(2021-09-03 13:45)LawnSprinkler554 Wrote:
(2021-08-26 8:56)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: The models are there to make money. Either you pay up and they show, or they will wait you out and take your tokens that way. As already stated, if a model scams you, and you were clear about the deal beforehand, you will 100% get your tokens back from the site. You'll get nothing if you sit in private for 30 minutes like a bitch waiting for the model to do something.

If you're constantly afraid of getting scammed, private shows aren't for you.

I'm curious tho, how do the admins of CB decide that you were in the right in such a scenario tho?
Are they able to go back and read chat logs and such or do you have to have screenshots/video as proof yourself or what?

SecretFriends admins DO go back and check chat logs and timings. I once lost several hundred dollars to a model, not a scam by her but a software glitch. The admins checked the records, spoke to the model AND refunded me. It had registered as a private show, even though both of us were offline at the time.
On only one or two occasions I paid models for a specifically advertised ticket show, and they started and stopped the show (on the site status) within a few seconds, - hence keeping the money without delivering the show as offered. I reported to the site admins, they checked and refunded me.
Other than that, if a girl is obviously dragging out the proceedings in Private, I ask her not to. I explain I will be a generous tipper even within the Private, and that I am there for a good length private not a 5 minute flash, but she needs to be more co-operative. If no immediate improvement I leave and never return to that model ever again. She will soon hear from other models in the same studio that she has lost out on a useful return customer.

2021-09-05 17:28

(2021-09-05 17:24)Guest Wrote:
(2021-09-03 13:45)LawnSprinkler554 Wrote:
(2021-08-26 8:56)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: The models are there to make money. Either you pay up and they show, or they will wait you out and take your tokens that way. As already stated, if a model scams you, and you were clear about the deal beforehand, you will 100% get your tokens back from the site. You'll get nothing if you sit in private for 30 minutes like a bitch waiting for the model to do something.

If you're constantly afraid of getting scammed, private shows aren't for you.

I'm curious tho, how do the admins of CB decide that you were in the right in such a scenario tho?
Are they able to go back and read chat logs and such or do you have to have screenshots/video as proof yourself or what?

SecretFriends admins DO go back and check chat logs and timings. I once lost several hundred dollars to a model, not a scam by her but a software glitch. The admins checked the records, spoke to the model AND refunded me. It had registered as a private show, even though both of us were offline at the time.
On only one or two occasions I paid models for a specifically advertised ticket show, and they started and stopped the show (on the site status) within a few seconds, - hence keeping the money without delivering the show as offered. I reported to the site admins, they checked and refunded me.
Other than that, if a girl is obviously dragging out the proceedings in Private, I ask her not to. I explain I will be a generous tipper even within the Private, and that I am there for a good length private not a 5 minute flash, but she needs to be more co-operative. If no immediate improvement I leave and never return to that model ever again. She will soon hear from other models in the same studio that she has lost out on a useful return customer.

To be clear (my post immediately above) I also make the small talk in free-chat before deciding if I want to be in Private with a model.

slashdotzero · (This post was last modified: 2021-09-05 19:23 by slashdotzero.)

(2021-08-26 5:58)cbali88 Wrote: You know camwhores have some series of questions in order to make you stay in private for a longer time because their goal is to make her client stay longer so that they get paid more. Sometimes this is annoying because she keeps dodging your requests or asking huge amount of questions ,especially, if you are a person that not like insisting. What I wonder is that how a camwhore expert deal with this ? If you got a kind of strategy, please share it under this. Thanks...

Here is my strategy. (1) Before taking any model pvt for the first time, always ask if they get naked in pvt when you are in free chat.

(2) If she asks you a few simple questions before getting naked, just answer them. Sometimes it's not that they are trying to stall. They just want to have an idea who you are because they can't see your face or hear your voice. The most common questions will be: where are you from, how old are you, and what is your name. Just answer the question without making any small talk. Then say "can I see you get naked" immediately after answering those 3 questions. If she doesn't start getting undressed or teasing at this point, then she is stalling. You can give it another minute to see what she does. If she doesn't make any attempts to perform for you, then you should close the pvt show immediately. You can contact customer support to get a refund if you feel you wasted too much money.

(3) Some models do a different type of stalling where they start teasing but don't take off their clothes right away. You should never wait more than 10 mins max for a model to get fully naked. (Even that is too long in my opinion) If you feel like she is taking extra time to remove her clothes, tell her what you want her to remove. If the stalling continues, end the pvt.

(4) There are some difficult models who will only get naked for tips. It is better to know this ahead of time if you can. so you can buy enough credits for the tips.

(5) Some weird models get naked quickly in VIP / Gold shows, but stall in regular pvt shows. If you an encounter this type of model, you can save money by joining the group show and then after the group show is finished, start a regular pvt immediately while the model is still naked. If she tries to put her clothes back on, offer a small tip ($5- $10)

(6) Sometimes if you upset a model she will not want to get naked for you for any amount of money. If you have any arguments with a model, it's a good idea to create a new account and pretend you are a different person. lol

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