Models who are scammers

SMD · (This post was last modified: 2020-11-29 12:18 by SMD.)

Who are some models who scam members? I can make a list if people are interested and contribute some names and update it from time to time for awareness. From personal experience I've been scammed by:

Camila_Cooper - Stripchat
Songbirdbabe - Chaturbate
IvyAura/Ivyhelix - Myfreecams/Onlyfans

bustercd · 2020-11-29 17:10

(2020-11-29 12:00)SMD Wrote: Who are some models who scam members? I can make a list if people are interested and contribute some names and update it from time to time for awareness. From personal experience I've been scammed by:

Camila_Cooper - Stripchat
Songbirdbabe - Chaturbate
IvyAura/Ivyhelix - Myfreecams/Onlyfans

Their all scammers of some sort. JS

2020-11-29 17:29

bustercd Wrote:
SMD Wrote:Who are some models who scam members? I can make a list if people are interested and contribute some names and update it from time to time for awareness. From personal experience I've been scammed by:

Camila_Cooper - Stripchat
Songbirdbabe - Chaturbate
IvyAura/Ivyhelix - Myfreecams/Onlyfans

Their all scammers of some sort. JS

This post was useless. JS

Momokun/mariah mallad - camversity

CheapThrills · (This post was last modified: 2020-11-29 19:05 by CheapThrills.)

(2020-11-29 17:10)bustercd Wrote: Their all scammers of some sort. JS

(In my own experience...) Can't help but agree with that.

5 years ago it was a little better (even though I got scammed plenty, come to think of it), but nowdays it's really hard to find models that actually do in private what they agree to in PM. I spend most of my time claiming back my tokens.

House056 · 2020-11-29 23:29

(2020-11-29 17:29)Guest Wrote:
bustercd Wrote:
SMD Wrote:Who are some models who scam members? I can make a list if people are interested and contribute some names and update it from time to time for awareness. From personal experience I've been scammed by:

Camila_Cooper - Stripchat
Songbirdbabe - Chaturbate
IvyAura/Ivyhelix - Myfreecams/Onlyfans

Their all scammers of some sort. JS

This post was useless. JS

Momokun/mariah mallad - camversity

Somewhat more useful - scamming is largely confined to eastern European girls and in particular the ones working at certain studios. They are not only allowed to scam, in certain ways they are encouraged to do it. One of the mild but most common vewrsions of this are girls who go into pvt and just sit there, waiting for guys to go in to spy expecting to see something and leave a few tokens behind.

The other largest concentration of models is in Colombia, and Colombian girls rarely engage in any of these behaviors, including the uber-common studio-driven non-nude "shy" scam. And guys who tip these models just feed this behavior.

SMD · 2020-11-30 3:27

(2020-11-29 19:04)CheapThrills Wrote:
(2020-11-29 17:10)bustercd Wrote: Their all scammers of some sort. JS

(In my own experience...) Can't help but agree with that.

5 years ago it was a little better (even though I got scammed plenty, come to think of it), but nowdays it's really hard to find models that actually do in private what they agree to in PM. I spend most of my time claiming back my tokens.

I should have been more specific in my thread I guess. I was referring to scams such as purchasing custom videos from models and them never delivering them, or tipping for pre-made and them never delivering which is what happened to me in the 3 models I listed above. Although, not doing what agreed upon for a private would be a form of scam as well I suppose.

Having said all that, I personally haven't really had much problem except with the 3 models listed and that's in 10 years of cam shows so maybe it comes down to luck.

SMD · 2020-11-30 3:28

(2020-11-29 23:29)House056 Wrote:
(2020-11-29 17:29)Guest Wrote:
bustercd Wrote:Their all scammers of some sort. JS

This post was useless. JS

Momokun/mariah mallad - camversity

Somewhat more useful - scamming is largely confined to eastern European girls and in particular the ones working at certain studios. They are not only allowed to scam, in certain ways they are encouraged to do it. One of the mild but most common vewrsions of this are girls who go into pvt and just sit there, waiting for guys to go in to spy expecting to see something and leave a few tokens behind.

The other largest concentration of models is in Colombia, and Colombian girls rarely engage in any of these behaviors, including the uber-common studio-driven non-nude "shy" scam. And guys who tip these models just feed this behavior.

The 3 models I've been scammed by, all 3 being customs ordered and never delivered, were 1 Colombian and 2 US girls (both US girls being fairly big names). I don't usually deal with euro models so maybe they are worse.

House056 · 2020-11-30 4:42

(2020-11-30 3:28)SMD Wrote:
(2020-11-29 23:29)House056 Wrote:
(2020-11-29 17:29)Guest Wrote: This post was useless. JS

Momokun/mariah mallad - camversity

Somewhat more useful - scamming is largely confined to eastern European girls and in particular the ones working at certain studios. They are not only allowed to scam, in certain ways they are encouraged to do it. One of the mild but most common vewrsions of this are girls who go into pvt and just sit there, waiting for guys to go in to spy expecting to see something and leave a few tokens behind.

The other largest concentration of models is in Colombia, and Colombian girls rarely engage in any of these behaviors, including the uber-common studio-driven non-nude "shy" scam. And guys who tip these models just feed this behavior.

The 3 models I've been scammed by, all 3 being customs ordered and never delivered, were 1 Colombian and 2 US girls (both US girls being fairly big names). I don't usually deal with euro models so maybe they are worse.

I also think we're talking about different kinds of scamming. What I'm talking about is low-level habitual stuff, the constant effort to deliver less than what is expected. It's the kind of stuff that isn't scamming if it's clear up front, rather it's just disappointing. I think east Euro girls view the job as token-harvesting and all's fair in love and war. That's not what I have experienced elsewhere, not with any consistency. As for US girls, I can't stand 'em generally, because so many seem to have low-level production qualities and drone on incessently about the most inane bullshit.

2020-11-30 4:55

SMD Wrote:
CheapThrills Wrote:
bustercd Wrote:Their all scammers of some sort. JS

(In my own experience...) Can't help but agree with that.

5 years ago it was a little better (even though I got scammed plenty, come to think of it), but nowdays it's really hard to find models that actually do in private what they agree to in PM. I spend most of my time claiming back my tokens.

I should have been more specific in my thread I guess. I was referring to scams such as purchasing custom videos from models and them never delivering them, or tipping for pre-made and them never delivering which is what happened to me in the 3 models I listed above. Although, not doing what agreed upon for a private would be a form of scam as well I suppose.

Having said all that, I personally haven't really had much problem except with the 3 models listed and that's in 10 years of cam shows so maybe it comes down to luck.

It was pretty obvious you were talking about this but some of the lonely guys that visit camsites think a nonnude camgirl choosing to stay clothed or not treating them like e-boyfriends is scamming. They probably think a waitress being nice to them just to get a tip is scamming too smh.

2020-11-30 8:42

Using your analogy... the waitress will get a tip if they provide a good service to you! If they spit in your eggs are you still gonna tip them?! Maybe you guest, cuz you might enjoy that! Tongue

(Like all things in life) you're paying a service. For them to provide a service to you. They ain't your friend and they don't give a shit about you. They just want your money.

You tell them what you want to see in private. If they agree to it then you take them to private. In private if they don't do what you agreed end the show and claim back your tokens.

One particular model scammed me in terms the OP suggested. Her name on MFC is "AlisonKittyes" but she has multiple accounts - also uses "SophiaLoren_1". I gave her 250 tokens for some of her "personal" videos and photos. Turned out to be videos ripped from pornhub.

Reza · 2020-11-30 10:41

u need to have basic logic and not pay tokens all at once
took me some time to figure out Big Grin

CheapThrills · 2020-11-30 11:28

(2020-11-30 10:41)Reza Wrote: u need to have basic logic and not pay tokens all at once
took me some time to figure out

In my experience any model who asks for tokens in order to go into private should generally be avoided.

As should two models in one room... when they ask you to tip the other model's room before you can take them into private. "So you want me to tip your friend 500 tokens before I can take you into private?! Yeah - like that's ever going to happen!" Cool

briggos · 2020-11-30 12:10

Well, i know that most of users of cam sites are stupid ignorant virgins, but ALL models using lovens, lush etc are scammers!!!
Jesus, years ago every room was different, every model with her topics and personality. Of course all of them are/were acting in some way, try to look nice next door girls but today all those fake and hilarious reactions to the lovense shit are really annoying.
Can't believe that 90% model use that and people keep tipping. Have you seen for example Anabel054 using it? it's so clearly fake that it ruins all the show, I personally cant stand a model using lovense for 10 seconds. And come on dudes, maybe a model uses it for 2 hours before topic is reached, and spends all the 2 hours reacting like crazy...have you ever been with a real woman in life?

CheapThrills · (This post was last modified: 2020-11-30 13:24 by CheapThrills.)

(2020-11-30 12:10)briggos Wrote: Well, i know that most of users of cam sites are stupid ignorant virgins, but ALL models using lovens, lush etc are scammers!!!
Jesus, years ago every room was different, every model with her topics and personality. Of course all of them are/were acting in some way, try to look nice next door girls but today all those fake and hilarious reactions to the lovense shit are really annoying.

^^ THIS!

These sites are now are plagued with models wearing fake lovense, lush, ohmibod - multi-casting over several sites. They are like whales sucking up plankton. A token here, a token there... such a pointless waste of time now.

I've never seen a model cum with a lush - no matter how many tokens guys (tipping with their cocks rather than with their brains) give them.

I spent two hours on Saturday trying to find a nice girl on MFC to spend some time with... eventually I just gave up!! Take me back to 2014/2015 when the models were actually good.

cashman · 2020-11-30 13:47

Guest Wrote:Somewhat more useful - scamming is largely confined to eastern European girls and in particular the ones working at certain studios. They are not only allowed to scam, in certain ways they are encouraged to do it. One of the mild but most common vewrsions of this are girls who go into pvt and just sit there, waiting for guys to go in to spy expecting to see something and leave a few tokens behind.

The other largest concentration of models is in Colombia, and Colombian girls rarely engage in any of these behaviors, including the uber-common studio-driven non-nude "shy" scam. And guys who tip these models just feed this behavior.

Yeah, you're 100% right, it is mainly girls from Romania, it could actually be the "Gypsy" in their blood that makes them do it LOL!

On the other hand, all my experiences with Colombian models has been positive.
I've never been scammed and they have always followed my requests and instructions in both public or in private.

Idea

But i guess it helped that i can speak a little Spanish though... (puedo hablar un poco)[/quote]

SMD · 2020-12-01 9:46

(2020-11-30 10:41)Reza Wrote: u need to have basic logic and not pay tokens all at once
took me some time to figure out

Very few models will go for this, as many members will scam models as well. I've done 100+ skype shows over the years and not a single model was cool with getting paid afterwards, or half up front and the 2nd half after the show. And in all of those skype shows, only 3 were really bad experiences. One broke down crying during the show, one had some drug addicted mental hate explosion that was one of the scarier things I've seen as she started actually physically hurting herself on purpose in the show before I cut the feed and the other just didn't do a fucking thing but sit there like a lump. All the others were pretty much worth it and wouldn't have happened without the up front pay. I'm surprised no models just took my money and didn't do the show, that only happened when ordering customs through OF or by tipping in room.

LawnSprinkler554 · 2022-06-11 10:49

(2020-11-30 12:10)briggos Wrote: Well, i know that most of users of cam sites are stupid ignorant virgins, but ALL models using lovens, lush etc are scammers!!!
Jesus, years ago every room was different, every model with her topics and personality. Of course all of them are/were acting in some way, try to look nice next door girls but today all those fake and hilarious reactions to the lovense shit are really annoying.
Can't believe that 90% model use that and people keep tipping. Have you seen for example Anabel054 using it? it's so clearly fake that it ruins all the show, I personally cant stand a model using lovense for 10 seconds. And come on dudes, maybe a model uses it for 2 hours before topic is reached, and spends all the 2 hours reacting like crazy...have you ever been with a real woman in life?

Yeah, I fucking hate the lovense and all those kind of sound activated toys, they have truly ruined camsites in so many ways...I activly try to find models that don't use them.

There are some models that just straight up ignores the lovense when people tip 1 token just because it truly doesn't do anything for them and those models are great, only reaction is when someone tip higher amounts that trigger high vibrations and in that case I think it's fine, but the models that shake like a fucking idiot when someone tip them 1 token I just fucking hate, gosh

Just like 2-3 years ago this wasn't as much a thing and then you could have a bit of fun in chatrooms because the models weren't distracted by their toy all the time, I get it that it's a great way for them to make money and it brings in a lot of idiots who tip them a lot just for them to shake around like a freak but yeah, I hate it.

BitBit67 · 2022-06-11 11:06

I have now tried a pvt in LJ. I asked if she does strip, she said yes, in pvt she danced for a few minutes then she sat down! she told me that in Russia "strip" is a type of dance and that he doesn't know what striptease is! crazy! poor me! Big Grin

LawnSprinkler554 · 2022-06-11 11:08

(2022-06-11 11:06)BitBit67 Wrote: I have now tried a pvt in LJ. I asked if she does strip, she said yes, in pvt she danced for a few minutes then she sat down! she told me that in Russia "strip" is a type of dance and that he doesn't know what striptease is! crazy! poor me!

I've never used LJ but I've always had a feeling it's trying to be more "exclusive" and therefore I have the image of it being expensive as fuck, is it?
How much did you pay for her to dance and then sit down lol?

LawnSprinkler554 · 2022-06-11 11:10

Nautica_Therapy is definetly a scammer.

Sets up goals and when they reach like 90% she changes them.
Or when a goal is reached like just now it was "cumshow", someone tipped for the full goal and then she went into a hidden show which requires you to pay 80 tokens to watch it lmao

BitBit67 · 2022-06-11 11:15

(2022-06-11 11:08)LawnSprinkler554 Wrote:
(2022-06-11 11:06)BitBit67 Wrote: I have now tried a pvt in LJ. I asked if she does strip, she said yes, in pvt she danced for a few minutes then she sat down! she told me that in Russia "strip" is a type of dance and that he doesn't know what striptease is! crazy! poor me!

I've never used LJ but I've always had a feeling it's trying to be more "exclusive" and therefore I have the image of it being expensive as fuck, is it?
How much did you pay for her to dance and then sit down lol?

no no ... I was lucky, only the cost of a few minutes of private! 2,49 cpm! she sat down, asked me if I liked her and if I wanted to chat and that she had the toy to vibrate! I escaped in time! ah ah ah! Wink

ruffen_3 · 2022-06-11 11:58

https://chaturbate.com/alizeeweber/

Newsreader · 2022-06-11 18:46

Most models scam each user in different ways.

This is why it is best to chat about private shows before going private. If they do not do as agreed, you can easily report to Chaturbate and they will look up the chat and will give you back your tokens.

But for me, by a huge mile, is Maryjaness (MFC), Toolovelyrose (CB) as the biggest scammer. Paired a NORA lovense, and wears tight leggings. You don't have to be Einstein to do the maths. But it is not just about her Lovense, she is a black hole of lies and false promises.

Newsreader · 2022-06-11 18:53

(2022-06-11 16:45)Azhrarn Wrote: Oh, and she'll also ban you immediately after the private, and block you from writing on her profile, so that you can't warn her next victims.

I had the same issue with sweerberyyyy (CB)

We spoke what i wanted in Pm, she was always 'Yes, Yes, Yes' to all my requests, so I took her private, she did nothing! I said start doing what we agreed, she replied 'Give me a thumbs up'. I said I already did when I tipped 25. She still did nothing. So I then said that I will change to a 'thumbs down', if she does not do as she agreed. As soon as I changed my vote, she banned me and kicked me out of the private.

I reported, and got all my tokens back. Big Grin

mmodie · 2022-06-12 3:20

Most models scam. But honestly, I don't know why so many people are shocked or caught off-guard by this. It's pretty simple.

Bottom Line
A Fool is easily parted from his money. The models and the sites aren't here to protect you. Only you can do it. Scams are all over the place - loot boxes, NFTs, emails from Arabian princes. If you're prone to being scammed, why shouldn't a model take your money easily? If they don't, you're just going to get scammed by something else.

Sure, from time to time this is unavoidable, and you're just gonna get got. But more times than not, you should be able to notice and avoid such situations. Minimally, you should be taking precautions to look for warning signs, and then use that knowledge to make solid risk-reward decisions.

On-site Transactions (Privates, True Privates, etc.)

Spoiler

1) Do Your Research: Take 2 minutes to search their name on cshive, cwtv and this site. Look at images and screenshots (not comments; user comments seem to be more wrong than right most of the time). Are you seeing that the model does the type of things you want them to do? If no, it doesn't mean it won't happen, but it's an upfront warning sign.

2) Ask in advance: Take another minute to check in PM is they're down for doing what you want them to do. Keep it short and sweet, but don't just open up with "You do anal in private". "Hello" <get a reply>. "You horny? Interested in a pvt?" <get a reply> "Do you do anal?" <get a reply>. After ~5 messages, most models will ignore you and focus on other people, so get to the point. But, if you jump directing to "fuck ass in pvt, bb?" they are likely to get pissed , so have an opener.

And yes, if a model isn't responding to your PMs, you can negotiate during the actual show itself. But again ... another warning sign and not recommended. Don't spend too long discussing, get to the point and start the action. Models will be more than happy wasting your tokens discussing what you want rather than doing it.

3) Know when to abort the mission: If you've been in the show for 5 minutes and the specific things you requested haven't started, you have to speak up. If it's been 10 minutes, then you need to bail. Granted, I have sometimes stayed past the 10-minute mark and got what I wanted, but again, another warning sign. It doesn't always play out that way.

This is more of an art than a science. You don't want to be their bitch, and usually you want to avoid coming off as an asshole ... hitting the "firm but fair" sweet spot often does the trick.

4) Get a refund if scammed: Most sites will refund up to 1,000 tokens. If you spent more on a show and didn't get what you wanted, then that's on you. If you're claiming refunds multiple times a month or multiple times for the same model, it likely won't happen, as the site will think that youare the problem not the model (and ... they're probably right).

Off-site Transactions (Skype Shows, Videos, etc.)

Spoiler

1) Use only for Special Requests: If all you're looking for is a show that could be performed on the site itself, then just do it on the site. This way, the site will refund you if things go south and you bail in time.

2) Prepare to be Scammed: Over the past 10 years, I've done almost 1,000 deals with almost 100 different models. Over the history of my deals, ~15%-20% of the models have been scammers (i.e. got nothing, or didn't get what was promised). Probably another 20%-25% required tactful conversations (going directly to arguing is the nuclear option, which almost never works ... but it may be cathartic), or waiting longer than desired in order to avoid the entire deal from going south. So, expect for only about half to two-thirds of models you deal with to do what was agreed without any hassle.

The best way to offset this is simply doing repeat offers with models that have already delivered the goods on prior deals.

3) Know your Prices for what you want: If you're offering $25 to watch a model who performs alone on the site to fuck her boyfriend in a video for you, that's likely way too low, and she has no intention of following through. She will likely just take your money because you're annoying the piss out of her. That said, I certainly have paid dirt-cheap prices for extraordinary shows, but this is pretty rare. Agreements to cheap prices ought to set off warning signals.

On the other hand, be careful of making prices so high that you're basically "making them an offer they can't refuse". If you have to offer too high of a price for something, then this is another warning sign. It may not be enough money for her to actually fuck her boyfriend in front of you, but you may very well hit the magic amount to make it worth the hassle for her to scam you. That said, I also certainly have paid very high amounts for certain "first time" shows.

4) Don't be a random: A lot of models won't do truly special requests for people they don't know. This isn't saying it is not possible, but you're fighting an uphill battle. If you never talked to the model before, never spent tokens on her, or haven't spent enough tokens to where your username is kind of familiar, and then magically she agrees to offsite deals, this is another warning sign.

Also, it is unlikely to successfully fulfill an insane request (film herself in a 5-man gangbang) in your first deal with her. It is not impossible, but you'll have better luck keeping things simple at first, and then pushing the boundaries once you have a history of holding up your side of the bargain, and she has shown a history of delivering.

LawnSprinkler554 · (This post was last modified: 2022-06-12 10:29 by LawnSprinkler554.)

(2022-06-12 3:20)mmodie Wrote: Most models scam. But honestly, I don't know why so many people are shocked or caught off-guard by this. It's pretty simple.

Bottom Line
A Fool is easily parted from his money. The models and the sites aren't here to protect you. Only you can do it. Scams are all over the place - loot boxes, NFTs, emails from Arabian princes. If you're prone to being scammed, why shouldn't a model take your money easily? If they don't, you're just going to get scammed by something else.

Sure, from time to time this is unavoidable, and you're just gonna get got. But more times than not, you should be able to notice and avoid such situations. Minimally, you should be taking precautions to look for warning signs, and then use that knowledge to make solid risk-reward decisions.

On-site Transactions (Privates, True Privates, etc.)

Spoiler

1) Do Your Research: Take 2 minutes to search their name on cshive, cwtv and this site. Look at images and screenshots (not comments; user comments seem to be more wrong than right most of the time). Are you seeing that the model does the type of things you want them to do? If no, it doesn't mean it won't happen, but it's an upfront warning sign.

2) Ask in advance: Take another minute to check in PM is they're down for doing what you want them to do. Keep it short and sweet, but don't just open up with "You do anal in private". "Hello" <get a reply>. "You horny? Interested in a pvt?" <get a reply> "Do you do anal?" <get a reply>. After ~5 messages, most models will ignore you and focus on other people, so get to the point. But, if you jump directing to "fuck ass in pvt, bb?" they are likely to get pissed , so have an opener.

And yes, if a model isn't responding to your PMs, you can negotiate during the actual show itself. But again ... another warning sign and not recommended. Don't spend too long discussing, get to the point and start the action. Models will be more than happy wasting your tokens discussing what you want rather than doing it.

3) Know when to abort the mission: If you've been in the show for 5 minutes and the specific things you requested haven't started, you have to speak up. If it's been 10 minutes, then you need to bail. Granted, I have sometimes stayed past the 10-minute mark and got what I wanted, but again, another warning sign. It doesn't always play out that way.

This is more of an art than a science. You don't want to be their bitch, and usually you want to avoid coming off as an asshole ... hitting the "firm but fair" sweet spot often does the trick.

4) Get a refund if scammed: Most sites will refund up to 1,000 tokens. If you spent more on a show and didn't get what you wanted, then that's on you. If you're claiming refunds multiple times a month or multiple times for the same model, it likely won't happen, as the site will think that youare the problem not the model (and ... they're probably right).

Off-site Transactions (Skype Shows, Videos, etc.)

Spoiler

1) Use only for Special Requests: If all you're looking for is a show that could be performed on the site itself, then just do it on the site. This way, the site will refund you if things go south and you bail in time.

2) Prepare to be Scammed: Over the past 10 years, I've done almost 1,000 deals with almost 100 different models. Over the history of my deals, ~15%-20% of the models have been scammers (i.e. got nothing, or didn't get what was promised). Probably another 20%-25% required tactful conversations (going directly to arguing is the nuclear option, which almost never works ... but it may be cathartic), or waiting longer than desired in order to avoid the entire deal from going south. So, expect for only about half to two-thirds of models you deal with to do what was agreed without any hassle.

The best way to offset this is simply doing repeat offers with models that have already delivered the goods on prior deals.

3) Know your Prices for what you want: If you're offering $25 to watch a model who performs alone on the site to fuck her boyfriend in a video for you, that's likely way too low, and she has no intention of following through. She will likely just take your money because you're annoying the piss out of her. That said, I certainly have paid dirt-cheap prices for extraordinary shows, but this is pretty rare. Agreements to cheap prices ought to set off warning signals.

On the other hand, be careful of making prices so high that you're basically "making them an offer they can't refuse". If you have to offer too high of a price for something, then this is another warning sign. It may not be enough money for her to actually fuck her boyfriend in front of you, but you may very well hit the magic amount to make it worth the hassle for her to scam you. That said, I also certainly have paid very high amounts for certain "first time" shows.

4) Don't be a random: A lot of models won't do truly special requests for people they don't know. This isn't saying it is not possible, but you're fighting an uphill battle. If you never talked to the model before, never spent tokens on her, or haven't spent enough tokens to where your username is kind of familiar, and then magically she agrees to offsite deals, this is another warning sign.

Also, it is unlikely to successfully fulfill an insane request (film herself in a 5-man gangbang) in your first deal with her. It is not impossible, but you'll have better luck keeping things simple at first, and then pushing the boundaries once you have a history of holding up your side of the bargain, and she has shown a history of delivering.

lol, I'm not gonna sit and read through all that but saying that "most models scam" is just straight out lying lmao
Many models sure, but not most.
If you just act like a normal human being and tip what their tip menu says and don't try to bargain and being an asshole, most models will do what you tip for, simple as that.

If you just throw yourself into a pvt without discussing it at all beforehand and being scammed it's your own fault as a viewer, discuss it beforehand.
And if you're really want to be cautious just take a screenshot of the conversation before starting and send it to the CB support if you turn up being scammed.
That's what I did when first started using CB and got scammed and I got my tokens back in like two hours and the model was banned.

mmodie · 2022-06-12 15:18

(2022-06-12 10:26)LawnSprinkler554 Wrote: Many models sure, but not most.

Many not most feels like you're nitpicking on semantics. But OK sure, if you want to say "most" is only when something occurs +50% of the time, then I would agree with many. As I said, about half to two-thirds of the time, you get what you asked for without having to hassle the model to hold up her end of the deal.

BTW, the entire reason for the TLDR is because there seems to be an overabundance of topics on this board about being scammed by models. Most of the time (and I do really mean "most"), the situation could have been avoided if the member just used some common sense. But I get it, people see a cute face with a great pair of tits and ass, and immediately their dick tells their brain to go fetch the credit card.

Newsreader · (This post was last modified: 2022-06-12 20:47 by Newsreader.)

(2022-06-12 10:26)LawnSprinkler554 Wrote: lol, I'm not gonna sit and read through all that but saying that "most models scam" is just straight out lying lmao
Many models sure, but not most.
If you just act like a normal human being and tip what their tip menu says and don't try to bargain and being an asshole, most models will do what you tip for, simple as that.

Usually 50% of menu items they will do. The other 50% are for laugh and stupid tippers i.e Marry Me Tongue

One thing that is getting on my tits lately, is models sending selfies to me, and saying she 'is waiting for me' I reply back, saying I can't. She replies back saying she will miss me and she will wait for me etc.

Which is a little bit like spam phone calls, to get users in and tip the model.

I once told one, that I would after I finished camming, and she can come and visit and tip me. She never did, so I never visited her. Next time, she asked why I never visited her, and I reminded her. It is proof they are only interested in tokens and not the person.

LawnSprinkler554 · 2022-06-13 3:25

(2022-06-12 20:01)Azhrarn Wrote:
(2022-06-12 10:26)LawnSprinkler554 Wrote: lol, I'm not gonna sit and read through all that but saying that "most models scam" is just straight out lying lmao
Many models sure, but not most.
If you just act like a normal human being and tip what their tip menu says and don't try to bargain and being an asshole, most models will do what you tip for, simple as that.

If you just throw yourself into a pvt without discussing it at all beforehand and being scammed it's your own fault as a viewer, discuss it beforehand.
And if you're really want to be cautious just take a screenshot of the conversation before starting and send it to the CB support if you turn up being scammed.
That's what I did when first started using CB and got scammed and I got my tokens back in like two hours and the model was banned.

If you're gonna frequent models who have tip menus like take out restaurants, of course you're going to have fewer problems. But there are some great models who don't have tip menus, or whiteboards, or tip goals. And it should be obvious, if I'm saying someone lied to me straight up, then I must have discussed it all with her beforehand, that's logical right? Also, CB is just one site. Some sites (SM) will refund you quickly, that's great. Other sites (MFC) will essentially look the other way.

As for acting like a normal human being, I've had great privates with lots of models. If I say someone is a scammer, she's a scammer.

And I don't think I have said anything else lol

(2022-06-12 20:46)Newsreader Wrote:
(2022-06-12 10:26)LawnSprinkler554 Wrote: lol, I'm not gonna sit and read through all that but saying that "most models scam" is just straight out lying lmao
Many models sure, but not most.
If you just act like a normal human being and tip what their tip menu says and don't try to bargain and being an asshole, most models will do what you tip for, simple as that.

Usually 50% of menu items they will do. The other 50% are for laugh and stupid tippers i.e Marry Me

One thing that is getting on my tits lately, is models sending selfies to me, and saying she 'is waiting for me' I reply back, saying I can't. She replies back saying she will miss me and she will wait for me etc.

Which is a little bit like spam phone calls, to get users in and tip the model.

I once told one, that I would after I finished camming, and she can come and visit and tip me. She never did, so I never visited her. Next time, she asked why I never visited her, and I reminded her. It is proof they are only interested in tokens and not the person.

Sure, but only idiots or simps pay for shit like that.

quagmire · 2022-06-13 4:03

(2022-06-11 16:45)Azhrarn Wrote: WittyBunnyy (MFC) is definitely a scammer. She will flat out lie to you, make all sorts of promises, and then in private will stall for time and refuse to do anything.

Oh, and she'll also ban you immediately after the private, and block you from writing on her profile, so that you can't warn her next victims.

https://profiles.myfreecams.com/WittyBunnyy

Same thing happened to me with WittyBunnyy
She even laughed about lying to me when I confronted her later.

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