STUDIO WITH MIRRORS

azzzcum · 2022-08-18 14:08

Hi guys !

I was thinking about to open a new thread to talk about models from this studio.

For exemple :
K_a_r_o_l_i_n_a
Cata_lina_S
Eli_sun
Y_u_m_i_k_a

From what i know, they can get nude, in public or private. Moderators are administrators of the studio and they decide what goals models have to do.

It looks like this studio will replace SWTBM soon.

sjkjhasfkjhas · (This post was last modified: 2022-08-18 19:42 by sjkjhasfkjhas.)

Also:

- curly_ginny
- dakota_ossa
- sav_anna
- scarlett_sageee
- babbysonfiree
- m_i_s_s_a
- yours_emma
- appr0ved
- silent_chill

They often create new rooms just for pair shows: I know dakota and scarlett use barbie_channel.

They can get nude, but they can't show their genitals or explicit acts of pornography. Some of the older models (babbysonfiree, yours_emma, scarlett_sageee) did do that in the past, but supposedly it's now a fireable offense. The studio became very spooked by the SWTBM raid.

For the moderators, some are definitely admins, but there's also a cabal of moderators who are all friends and ended up getting mod in most of their rooms. It's kinda like daffy_d and his friends in the STUDIO OF NON-NUDE SCAMMERS, but it's actually a different group:

- smoker919
- reswa432
- batman_is_dead
- raimond17
- cokeaddict77
- idizaster

You can tell who's an admin and who's a mod groupie based on how they interact with chat. The admins usually post the generic "tip this model pls" gifs, while the mod groupies either post model-specific gifs they made themselves, or just ignore the model and talk amongst themselves.

In terms of model quality: definitely feels like SWTBM redux. Some of them are absolutely gorgeous, but a lot of them would be a 5 or 6 on the street. But because they play shy, they get hundreds or thousands of viewers.

By the way, they have two studios:

- The generic beige/pink studio with mirrors, generic lights, a single plastic chair, and sometimes an adjacent shower
- A newer studio with neon lights, carpeting, and padded chairs

SupremeWhale · (This post was last modified: 2022-08-18 19:18 by SupremeWhale.)

(2022-08-18 14:08)azzzcum Wrote: It looks like this studio will replace SWTBM soon.

(2022-08-18 18:23)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: They can get nude, but they can't show their genitals or explicit acts of pornography. Some of the older models (babbysonfiree, ella_glam, scarlett_sageee) did do that in the past, but supposedly it's now a fireable offense. The studio became very spooked by the SWTBM raid.

For the moderators, some are definitely admins, but there's also a cabal of moderators who are all friends and ended up getting mod in most of their rooms. It's kinda like daffy_d and his friends in the STUDIO OF NON-NUDE SCAMMERS, but it's actually a different group:

- smoker919
- reswa432
- batman_is_dead
- raimond17
- cokeaddict77
- idizaster

You can tell who's an admin and who's a mod groupie based on how they interact with chat. The admins usually post the generic "tip this model pls" gifs, while the mod groupies either post model-specific gifs they made themselves, or just ignore the model and talk amongst themselves.

In terms of model quality: definitely feels like SWTBM redux. Some of them are absolutely gorgeous, but a lot of them would be a 5 or 6 on the street. But because they play shy, they get hundreds or thousands of viewers.

By the way, they have two studios:

- The generic beige/pink studio with mirrors, generic lights, a single plastic chair, and sometimes an adjacent shower
- A newer studio with neon lights, carpeting, and padded chairs

Guys please just fantasize on models, not studios or admins. You obviously don't know shit about it. Big Grin

applejuiiice · 2022-08-18 19:24

That batman_is_dead guy is the biggest prick on chaturbate and has ruined so many rooms with his white knight bullshit.

(2022-08-18 18:23)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: Also:

- curly_ginny
- dakota_ossa
- sav_anna
- scarlett_sageee
- babbysonfiree
- m_i_s_s_a
- yours_emma
- appr0ved
- silent_chill

They often create new rooms just for pair shows: I know dakota and scarlett use barbie_channel.

They can get nude, but they can't show their genitals or explicit acts of pornography. Some of the older models (babbysonfiree, ella_glam, scarlett_sageee) did do that in the past, but supposedly it's now a fireable offense. The studio became very spooked by the SWTBM raid.

For the moderators, some are definitely admins, but there's also a cabal of moderators who are all friends and ended up getting mod in most of their rooms. It's kinda like daffy_d and his friends in the STUDIO OF NON-NUDE SCAMMERS, but it's actually a different group:

- smoker919
- reswa432
- batman_is_dead
- raimond17
- cokeaddict77
- idizaster

You can tell who's an admin and who's a mod groupie based on how they interact with chat. The admins usually post the generic "tip this model pls" gifs, while the mod groupies either post model-specific gifs they made themselves, or just ignore the model and talk amongst themselves.

In terms of model quality: definitely feels like SWTBM redux. Some of them are absolutely gorgeous, but a lot of them would be a 5 or 6 on the street. But because they play shy, they get hundreds or thousands of viewers.

By the way, they have two studios:

- The generic beige/pink studio with mirrors, generic lights, a single plastic chair, and sometimes an adjacent shower
- A newer studio with neon lights, carpeting, and padded chairs

sjkjhasfkjhas · 2022-08-18 19:43

(2022-08-18 19:24)applejuiiice Wrote: That batman_is_dead guy is the biggest prick on chaturbate and has ruined so many rooms with his white knight bullshit.

All of them suck. It's like they've all got master's degrees in Creepy White Knightdom. But yeah, I think Batman and Smoker are the worst of the lot.

daylight · (This post was last modified: 2022-08-18 20:04 by daylight.)

(2022-08-18 19:17)SupremeWhale Wrote:
(2022-08-18 14:08)azzzcum Wrote: It looks like this studio will replace SWTBM soon.

(2022-08-18 18:23)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: They can get nude, but they can't show their genitals or explicit acts of pornography. Some of the older models (babbysonfiree, ella_glam, scarlett_sageee) did do that in the past, but supposedly it's now a fireable offense. The studio became very spooked by the SWTBM raid.

For the moderators, some are definitely admins, but there's also a cabal of moderators who are all friends and ended up getting mod in most of their rooms. It's kinda like daffy_d and his friends in the STUDIO OF NON-NUDE SCAMMERS, but it's actually a different group:

- smoker919
- reswa432
- batman_is_dead
- raimond17
- cokeaddict77
- idizaster

You can tell who's an admin and who's a mod groupie based on how they interact with chat. The admins usually post the generic "tip this model pls" gifs, while the mod groupies either post model-specific gifs they made themselves, or just ignore the model and talk amongst themselves.

In terms of model quality: definitely feels like SWTBM redux. Some of them are absolutely gorgeous, but a lot of them would be a 5 or 6 on the street. But because they play shy, they get hundreds or thousands of viewers.

By the way, they have two studios:

- The generic beige/pink studio with mirrors, generic lights, a single plastic chair, and sometimes an adjacent shower
- A newer studio with neon lights, carpeting, and padded chairs

Guys please just fantasize on models, not studios or admins. You obviously don't know shit about it.

Let them keep writing. It's funny how busy they are with admins, mods, and their conspiracies about everything that they see on Chaturbate. Even a psychologist sees that they have no chance in life Big Grin

applejuiiice · 2022-08-18 21:14

Agreed as the way this guy tries to manipulate and control models is on another level

(2022-08-18 19:43)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote:
(2022-08-18 19:24)applejuiiice Wrote: That batman_is_dead guy is the biggest prick on chaturbate and has ruined so many rooms with his white knight bullshit.

All of them suck. It's like they've all got master's degrees in Creepy White Knightdom. But yeah, I think Batman and Smoker are the worst of the lot.

azzzcum · 2022-08-19 8:24

And what do you think about the new one : cata_lina_s.
From what i saw she is a bit scammer, yesterday she was wearing a white top, without bra, she decided to set a goal for « wet top », she did and covered her top with her hands, and after 3 minutes, she run out of the sight of the camera to wear her bra again.
Of course tippers complained, and she set another goal for bra off lol.

She is hot and has potential, but i doubt she will undress.

CamPorn Freak · (This post was last modified: 2022-08-19 9:40 by CamPorn Freak.)

(2022-08-19 8:24)azzzcum Wrote: And what do you think about the new one : cata_lina_s.
From what i saw she is a bit scammer, yesterday she was wearing a white top, without bra, she decided to set a goal for « wet top », she did and covered her top with her hands, and after 3 minutes, she run out of the sight of the camera to wear her bra again.
Of course tippers complained, and she set another goal for bra off lol.

She is hot and has potential, but i doubt she will undress.

I did see her silence you when you was bitching about it in her room, you really are a bit dumb at times.
You know how this studio works and you know the first 2 days normally there is fuck all a bit of tit if you're lucky,
then the tits come out and a day or two later it's shower time, then Pussy and then the room goes dead as every fucker moves on.
Sometimes if the room starts well with good tipping things progress quicker, but I will say, K_a_r_o_l_i_n_a's room is the first time I've seen the studio go down the ticket show rough for the nude stuff, I just hope they don't start making it that way for all the rooms.

The goals are set by the Admin and the girls have to do what they are told, many times I've seen the girls react like, WTF, I've got to do what????, but then they do it, but the Admin do feed extra goals in when there is a big tipper slamming down his tokens, often stopping the guy(s) from tipping as they know what they are doing lol.
Normally it's guys like you that fuck shit up, putting off other from tipping, You're too egger to get to the good shit and expect every girl to just get them out and to do what you want, but when they do get them out but still don't do what you actually want then you say they have mental issues because you can't control them.

So to your clam she is a bit of a scammer,
No she isn't, the studio are the scammers so don't take it out on her, seen too many girl up and walk because of guys giving them shit when they have no control over what happens in the room.
Look at Lola_Dinky aka Yours_Lola Even I called her a scammer when she was at the other studio, but now look at her, Tits and Pussy in public and not demanding 1000s of tks for it.

azzzcum · 2022-08-19 10:17

(2022-08-19 9:16)CamPorn Freak Wrote:
(2022-08-19 8:24)azzzcum Wrote: And what do you think about the new one : cata_lina_s.
From what i saw she is a bit scammer, yesterday she was wearing a white top, without bra, she decided to set a goal for « wet top », she did and covered her top with her hands, and after 3 minutes, she run out of the sight of the camera to wear her bra again.
Of course tippers complained, and she set another goal for bra off lol.

She is hot and has potential, but i doubt she will undress.

I did see her silence you when you was bitching about it in her room, you really are a bit dumb at times.
You know how this studio works and you know the first 2 days normally there is fuck all a bit of tit if you're lucky,
then the tits come out and a day or two later it's shower time, then Pussy and then the room goes dead as every fucker moves on.
Sometimes if the room starts well with good tipping things progress quicker, but I will say, K_a_r_o_l_i_n_a's room is the first time I've seen the studio go down the ticket show rough for the nude stuff, I just hope they don't start making it that way for all the rooms.

The goals are set by the Admin and the girls have to do what they are told, many times I've seen the girls react like, WTF, I've got to do what????, but then they do it, but the Admin do feed extra goals in when there is a big tipper slamming down his tokens, often stopping the guy(s) from tipping as they know what they are doing lol.
Normally it's guys like you that fuck shit up, putting off other from tipping, You're too egger to get to the good shit and expect every girl to just get them out and to do what you want, but when they do get them out but still don't do what you actually want then you say they have mental issues because you can't control them.

So to your clam she is a bit of a scammer,
No she isn't, the studio are the scammers so don't take it out on her, seen too many girl up and walk because of guys giving them shit when they have no control over what happens in the room.
Look at Lola_Dinky aka Yours_Lola Even I called her a scammer when she was at the other studio, but now look at her, Tits and Pussy in public and not demanding 1000s of tks for it.

Ahem, yesterday her admin set a goal for handbra, people start to tip for it, and before goal was reached, admin changed the goal for lick fingers. It proves you’re wrong, admin set goals, but models not always do them. But of course this is not a scamm.
She clearly told me she will show tits in pvt in pm (i was in pvt this morning) and what she did? She pulled her dress down, she took off her corset, and then pulled her dress up to cover tits. She asked 200 extra to wet her dress. This is not a scamm of course, but tell me how do you call it then?
About her goals, yesterday she acted really as a scammer, first she wet her white top, and 1s after she covered her wet top with her hands, 3mn after she was wearing her bra again. She asked more tokens for more water, 4 or 5 people complained, then she set a new goal for bra off (even if 20mn before the goal for bra off was reached). And when she took off her bra, she covered again her wet top with hands.
She is in bad faith, that’s it. And a scammer.

By the way, i saw another scammer this morning she is called « mikkitun ». This morning her goal was « show tits » and what she did? Handbra.

ohnoyetanotherusername · 2022-08-19 11:23

(2022-08-19 10:17)azzzcum Wrote:
(2022-08-19 9:16)CamPorn Freak Wrote:
(2022-08-19 8:24)azzzcum Wrote: And what do you think about the new one : cata_lina_s.
From what i saw she is a bit scammer, yesterday she was wearing a white top, without bra, she decided to set a goal for « wet top », she did and covered her top with her hands, and after 3 minutes, she run out of the sight of the camera to wear her bra again.
Of course tippers complained, and she set another goal for bra off lol.

She is hot and has potential, but i doubt she will undress.

I did see her silence you when you was bitching about it in her room, you really are a bit dumb at times.
You know how this studio works and you know the first 2 days normally there is fuck all a bit of tit if you're lucky,
then the tits come out and a day or two later it's shower time, then Pussy and then the room goes dead as every fucker moves on.
Sometimes if the room starts well with good tipping things progress quicker, but I will say, K_a_r_o_l_i_n_a's room is the first time I've seen the studio go down the ticket show rough for the nude stuff, I just hope they don't start making it that way for all the rooms.

The goals are set by the Admin and the girls have to do what they are told, many times I've seen the girls react like, WTF, I've got to do what????, but then they do it, but the Admin do feed extra goals in when there is a big tipper slamming down his tokens, often stopping the guy(s) from tipping as they know what they are doing lol.
Normally it's guys like you that fuck shit up, putting off other from tipping, You're too egger to get to the good shit and expect every girl to just get them out and to do what you want, but when they do get them out but still don't do what you actually want then you say they have mental issues because you can't control them.

So to your clam she is a bit of a scammer,
No she isn't, the studio are the scammers so don't take it out on her, seen too many girl up and walk because of guys giving them shit when they have no control over what happens in the room.
Look at Lola_Dinky aka Yours_Lola Even I called her a scammer when she was at the other studio, but now look at her, Tits and Pussy in public and not demanding 1000s of tks for it.

Ahem, yesterday her admin set a goal for handbra, people start to tip for it, and before goal was reached, admin changed the goal for lick fingers. It proves you’re wrong, admin set goals, but models not always do them. But of course this is not a scamm.
She clearly told me she will show tits in pvt in pm (i was in pvt this morning) and what she did? She pulled her dress down, she took off her corset, and then pulled her dress up to cover tits. She asked 200 extra to wet her dress. This is not a scamm of course, but tell me how do you call it then?
About her goals, yesterday she acted really as a scammer, first she wet her white top, and 1s after she covered her wet top with her hands, 3mn after she was wearing her bra again. She asked more tokens for more water, 4 or 5 people complained, then she set a new goal for bra off (even if 20mn before the goal for bra off was reached). And when she took off her bra, she covered again her wet top with hands.
She is in bad faith, that’s it. And a scammer.

By the way, i saw another scammer this morning she is called « mikkitun ». This morning her goal was « show tits » and what she did? Handbra.

If this becomes a habit, you can call it a scam but seriously, tipping a new model or taking her private on cb (or any camsite) always comes with a higher risk of some fuck up. It's never been different and never will be.

CamPorn Freak · 2022-08-19 12:19

(2022-08-19 10:17)azzzcum Wrote: Ahem, yesterday her admin set a goal for handbra, people start to tip for it, and before goal was reached, admin changed the goal for lick fingers. It proves you’re wrong, admin set goals, but models not always do them. But of course this is not a scamm.

She clearly told me she will show tits in pvt in pm (i was in pvt this morning) and what she did? She pulled her dress down, she took off her corset, and then pulled her dress up to cover tits. She asked 200 extra to wet her dress. This is not a scamm of course, but tell me how do you call it then?

About her goals, yesterday she acted really as a scammer, first she wet her white top, and 1s after she covered her wet top with her hands, 3mn after she was wearing her bra again. She asked more tokens for more water, 4 or 5 people complained, then she set a new goal for bra off (even if 20mn before the goal for bra off was reached). And when she took off her bra, she covered again her wet top with hands.
She is in bad faith, that’s it. And a scammer.

By the way, i saw another scammer this morning she is called « mikkitun ». This morning her goal was « show tits » and what she did? Handbra.

1) I'm not right, I said the admin set the goals and the admin change them, they are the scammers, not the girl
seen it a few times at this studio and pulled them on it in the past saying that the room will get banned and they will loose all their tokens tipped that haven't been claimed, sometimes it worked and they reset the goal back, other times I got banned.

2) Again the Admin tell her what to do and with most new studio girls they are pushed to get as much out of you as possible as the admin know they will not last long. When she said she would only show her tits in private, did you agree on a price????
I know Erkia coy would charge 4000tks to get them out in private when she was new at SWTBM, now they are out for free in her new studio, you always have to pay more when you want shit like tits when they are new, especially when you request it beforehand. I would suggest you go back to her in a week or so and she will get them out probably in public.
Also a private isn't about just getting naked because you are paying a hand full of tokens per minutes, you are paying this cost to have her to yourself without others getting in the way, treat all privates as a public show, you want tits, a gapped arsehole or whatever you're into, you got to pay for it, not all models are Columbian models who will ride a 50" monster dildo for 6tks p/m.

You seem to get a lot of scammers, or call stuff as a scam, could it be you don't understand the difference between a slag extrovert and a girl at a money making studio.

I would suggest sitting back when in a new room and see how it goes before deciding to go for a private.
At the end of the day if you feel the room was a scamming room early on, why on earth would you go for a private if the chance was high that you wouldn't get what you wanted at a low low price.
It's like gambling on a 3 legged horse, you can see it can't run for shit so why put money on it to win and then feel scammed because it didn't win.

BUT if in your PM you agreed on a price for tits out and you paid it in the private and she didn't get them out then YES you are correct it's a scam,
but if you didn't agree a set price and how it would unfold then NO she's not a scammer but a cleaver girl doing her job which is to get as many tokens as possible.
If you are offered a job at a set price and to be done in a times scale you do it, You do it, get paid and fuck off.
But if you are offered a job where you get paid everyday no matter how long it takes, you naturally take the piss and make it last longer so you get paid more, it's the same for them.

Anyways, how you been, not seen you around for a while.

azzzcum · (This post was last modified: 2022-08-19 13:21 by azzzcum.)

(2022-08-19 12:19)CamPorn Freak Wrote:
(2022-08-19 10:17)azzzcum Wrote: Ahem, yesterday her admin set a goal for handbra, people start to tip for it, and before goal was reached, admin changed the goal for lick fingers. It proves you’re wrong, admin set goals, but models not always do them. But of course this is not a scamm.

She clearly told me she will show tits in pvt in pm (i was in pvt this morning) and what she did? She pulled her dress down, she took off her corset, and then pulled her dress up to cover tits. She asked 200 extra to wet her dress. This is not a scamm of course, but tell me how do you call it then?

About her goals, yesterday she acted really as a scammer, first she wet her white top, and 1s after she covered her wet top with her hands, 3mn after she was wearing her bra again. She asked more tokens for more water, 4 or 5 people complained, then she set a new goal for bra off (even if 20mn before the goal for bra off was reached). And when she took off her bra, she covered again her wet top with hands.
She is in bad faith, that’s it. And a scammer.

By the way, i saw another scammer this morning she is called « mikkitun ». This morning her goal was « show tits » and what she did? Handbra.

1) I'm not right, I said the admin set the goals and the admin change them, they are the scammers, not the girl
seen it a few times at this studio and pulled them on it in the past saying that the room will get banned and they will loose all their tokens tipped that haven't been claimed, sometimes it worked and they reset the goal back, other times I got banned.

2) Again the Admin tell her what to do and with most new studio girls they are pushed to get as much out of you as possible as the admin know they will not last long. When she said she would only show her tits in private, did you agree on a price????
I know Erkia coy would charge 4000tks to get them out in private when she was new at SWTBM, now they are out for free in her new studio, you always have to pay more when you want shit like tits when they are new, especially when you request it beforehand. I would suggest you go back to her in a week or so and she will get them out probably in public.
Also a private isn't about just getting naked because you are paying a hand full of tokens per minutes, you are paying this cost to have her to yourself without others getting in the way, treat all privates as a public show, you want tits, a gapped arsehole or whatever you're into, you got to pay for it, not all models are Columbian models who will ride a 50" monster dildo for 6tks p/m.

You seem to get a lot of scammers, or call stuff as a scam, could it be you don't understand the difference between a slag extrovert and a girl at a money making studio.

I would suggest sitting back when in a new room and see how it goes before deciding to go for a private.
At the end of the day if you feel the room was a scamming room early on, why on earth would you go for a private if the chance was high that you wouldn't get what you wanted at a low low price.
It's like gambling on a 3 legged horse, you can see it can't run for shit so why put money on it to win and then feel scammed because it didn't win.

BUT if in your PM you agreed on a price for tits out and you paid it in the private and she didn't get them out then YES you are correct it's a scam,
but if you didn't agree a set price and how it would unfold then NO she's not a scammer but a cleaver girl doing her job which is to get as many tokens as possible.
If you are offered a job at a set price and to be done in a times scale you do it, You do it, get paid and fuck off.
But if you are offered a job where you get paid everyday no matter how long it takes, you naturally take the piss and make it last longer so you get paid more, it's the same for them.

Anyways, how you been, not seen you around for a while.

She was begging for a pvt, because she got 0 tokens in 2 hours of stream. She pmed me and asked me if i wanted a pvt. My answer was, what can you do in pvt? Basically she said she can take off her dress and do a show, i asked her if she will remove her bra and show tits, she said yes. She didn’t mentionned any extra for it.
In pvt she removed the top of her dress, teased with her corset, then she removed it in the corner of the room showing off her back. And then she put the dress straps on her shoulders, and … asked me additional for a wet dress.
She refused to show her tits, saying she was non nude.

Well, call this how you want but for me she is a scammer.

Ah, and by the way, after our private she was begging again for a pvt in the public chat, i asked her if she will show tits in private, and her answer was to silence me.
I love when models act like this lol.

ohnoyetanotherusername · 2022-08-19 14:44

You are obviously not new to cb and not new to this studio too. Not sure if it's so wise then to start a private show with a new girl assuming she acted kinda "shy" in public, which makes it even more risky. Calling a new girl a scam on her second (?) day is harsh. If it becomes a habit, sure but this is too quick. I will assume that you knew about the risks and still did it, so at least a part of it is on you.

If it's a crystal clear case, write to cb support and ask for a refund.

azzzcum · 2022-08-19 16:03

(2022-08-19 14:44)ohnoyetanotherusername Wrote: You are obviously not new to cb and not new to this studio too. Not sure if it's so wise then to start a private show with a new girl assuming she acted kinda "shy" in public, which makes it even more risky. Calling a new girl a scam on her second (?) day is harsh. If it becomes a habit, sure but this is too quick. I will assume that you knew about the risks and still did it, so at least a part of it is on you.

If it's a crystal clear case, write to cb support and ask for a refund.

Hmm from what i know, CB will refund you only the additional tokens you tipped, they never refund the tokens spent to pay the pvt price.
Maybe it changed, but i am not sure about it. I reported her, and since i saw a guy called sinuhe_berlin in her room, he said strange things (he pretend he is here to check her because she has been reported several times, he said he can ban rooms, but i dunno what to think about him).
In the past i was friend with a guy (i won’t tell his nickname), he was able to ban rooms, his job was to sit on cb 6h per day and check rooms, if models does nothing illegal. I had to trust him, cuz he was able to watch password room show, pvt with spy off, he was able to tell the real adress and real names of the girls, and to watch all private messages of models and users..

ohnoyetanotherusername · 2022-08-20 11:17

(2022-08-19 16:03)azzzcum Wrote:
(2022-08-19 14:44)ohnoyetanotherusername Wrote: You are obviously not new to cb and not new to this studio too. Not sure if it's so wise then to start a private show with a new girl assuming she acted kinda "shy" in public, which makes it even more risky. Calling a new girl a scam on her second (?) day is harsh. If it becomes a habit, sure but this is too quick. I will assume that you knew about the risks and still did it, so at least a part of it is on you.

If it's a crystal clear case, write to cb support and ask for a refund.

Hmm from what i know, CB will refund you only the additional tokens you tipped, they never refund the tokens spent to pay the pvt price.
Maybe it changed, but i am not sure about it. I reported her, and since i saw a guy called sinuhe_berlin in her room, he said strange things (he pretend he is here to check her because she has been reported several times, he said he can ban rooms, but i dunno what to think about him).
In the past i was friend with a guy (i won’t tell his nickname), he was able to ban rooms, his job was to sit on cb 6h per day and check rooms, if models does nothing illegal. I had to trust him, cuz he was able to watch password room show, pvt with spy off, he was able to tell the real adress and real names of the girls, and to watch all private messages of models and users..

Okay, I don't believe the story about the cb guy for one second but whatever.

CB definitely refunds tokens spent for a private show if the model did not do what was agreed upon before the private show. They will ask the girl if she agrees to the refund. If she does not agree, cb will make the decision.

azzzcum · 2022-08-20 11:38

Today, marseille_k is doing a nice topless show. She is really cute.
Cata_lina_s, still saying she is non nude, today is bad for her, no pvt and not a lot of tokens. Let’s hope she will change her mind soon.

CamPorn Freak · 2022-08-20 13:21

Lets get the fun part of threads like this this started

Two Rooms from Mirror Studios

Marseille_K

She seems OK, happy to get them out, probably have no issue flashing the Gash either


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Sav_Anna
Pre in the Shower Ticket Show
More of a collection of what happened, cut and joined a few of the good bits.


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Both here.
https://nobodyhome.tv/thread-10637-post-...pid4064210

Newsreader · 2022-08-20 22:10

(2022-08-19 9:16)CamPorn Freak Wrote: The goals are set by the Admin and the girls have to do what they are told, many times I've seen the girls react like, WTF, I've got to do what????

Ooh I saw this many many times in many many studios. Best time was one model, who said she will never undress, had no idea what the prizes were when rolling the dice. She was absolutely shocked when one prize appeared, saying to show breasts. You could see her verbally having a go, to someone behind the camera. Sad to say she reluctantly did it. I think it took her 5 minutes to carefully take her dress down, undo bra, straps off, and slowly remove the bra protecting her modesty using her hands, ending up with a hand bra. Then she got up and walked off, 10 minutes later, she returned with the dice removed. Tongue

All for 25 tokens )

detboy · (This post was last modified: 2022-08-22 9:56 by detboy.)

This studio I've ended up following a bit. I believe it's actually setup by victoria_karma.

Victoria_karma was originally oliviakarma, just your standard cam girl working at a Russian studio. She was pretty and prepared to do just about anything on cam (seen her play with her pussy countless times, and seen her do deep Anal, ATM, DP etc.).

She then quit, took some members with her and set herself up as victoria_karma and was born again non-nude for a while, although starting to get naked again at least.

Seems she has wider ambitions and started recruiting girls and building a studio. She is able to find some pretty girls, and seems to be able to train and script them to maximise popularity and tokens pretty well.

detboy · 2022-08-22 10:36

As proof. Here is victoria_karma in the infamous shower posted 10 months ago.
https://www.camwhores.tv/videos/7541299/...a-karma-1/
https://www.camwhores.tv/videos/7506149/...he-shower/
and a familiar studio.
https://www.camwhores.tv/videos/7593281/...a-karma-4/

Also on victoria__karma instagram is a whole story about renovating one of the latest studio rooms. A room with a bed, a bedside table with a buddha statue on it. That room is currently hosting y_u_m_i_k_a.

oliverklosoff · 2022-08-23 15:27

(2022-08-19 12:19)CamPorn Freak Wrote:
(2022-08-19 10:17)azzzcum Wrote: Ahem, yesterday her admin set a goal for handbra, people start to tip for it, and before goal was reached, admin changed the goal for lick fingers. It proves you’re wrong, admin set goals, but models not always do them. But of course this is not a scamm.

She clearly told me she will show tits in pvt in pm (i was in pvt this morning) and what she did? She pulled her dress down, she took off her corset, and then pulled her dress up to cover tits. She asked 200 extra to wet her dress. This is not a scamm of course, but tell me how do you call it then?

About her goals, yesterday she acted really as a scammer, first she wet her white top, and 1s after she covered her wet top with her hands, 3mn after she was wearing her bra again. She asked more tokens for more water, 4 or 5 people complained, then she set a new goal for bra off (even if 20mn before the goal for bra off was reached). And when she took off her bra, she covered again her wet top with hands.
She is in bad faith, that’s it. And a scammer.

By the way, i saw another scammer this morning she is called « mikkitun ». This morning her goal was « show tits » and what she did? Handbra.

1) I'm not right, I said the admin set the goals and the admin change them, they are the scammers, not the girl
seen it a few times at this studio and pulled them on it in the past saying that the room will get banned and they will loose all their tokens tipped that haven't been claimed, sometimes it worked and they reset the goal back, other times I got banned.

2) Again the Admin tell her what to do and with most new studio girls they are pushed to get as much out of you as possible as the admin know they will not last long. When she said she would only show her tits in private, did you agree on a price????
I know Erkia coy would charge 4000tks to get them out in private when she was new at SWTBM, now they are out for free in her new studio, you always have to pay more when you want shit like tits when they are new, especially when you request it beforehand. I would suggest you go back to her in a week or so and she will get them out probably in public.
Also a private isn't about just getting naked because you are paying a hand full of tokens per minutes, you are paying this cost to have her to yourself without others getting in the way, treat all privates as a public show, you want tits, a gapped arsehole or whatever you're into, you got to pay for it, not all models are Columbian models who will ride a 50" monster dildo for 6tks p/m.

You seem to get a lot of scammers, or call stuff as a scam, could it be you don't understand the difference between a slag extrovert and a girl at a money making studio.

I would suggest sitting back when in a new room and see how it goes before deciding to go for a private.
At the end of the day if you feel the room was a scamming room early on, why on earth would you go for a private if the chance was high that you wouldn't get what you wanted at a low low price.
It's like gambling on a 3 legged horse, you can see it can't run for shit so why put money on it to win and then feel scammed because it didn't win.

BUT if in your PM you agreed on a price for tits out and you paid it in the private and she didn't get them out then YES you are correct it's a scam,
but if you didn't agree a set price and how it would unfold then NO she's not a scammer but a cleaver girl doing her job which is to get as many tokens as possible.
If you are offered a job at a set price and to be done in a times scale you do it, You do it, get paid and fuck off.
But if you are offered a job where you get paid everyday no matter how long it takes, you naturally take the piss and make it last longer so you get paid more, it's the same for them.

Anyways, how you been, not seen you around for a while.

I have saaid this before and I will say it again. Most of these girls are at the mercy of a studio. It is obvious if you spend a lot of time on cam sites that studios in Europe operate differently than studios operated in the western hemisphere. Since Wifi is virtually everywhere in the US, studios are irrelevent. In most of the European studios where capitalism has not been an option for 100 years, things are different. It appears they are willing to step over dollars looking for pennies. I see more and more new models who have practically no followers, asking insane prices for shows. A new model who says she is non nude might be charging as much as 60 cents instead of what she is actually worth, nothing. Any new model should in theory limit her private shows to 6 or 12 tokens until she has so many privates that it interferes with public chat. That is when you raise prices, not at the start, looking for the one idiot who will pay you. If a model had any education beyond the minimum, she would probably be doing something other than cam modelling.There are exceptions but if you live your life looing for exceptions, you will waste a lot of your money. Chaturbate is not a dating site. It isn't a chat room. It is a sex site. Never think with your dick. Use your brain. Never ay more than 30 tokens for a private show. That is $180 an hour and you can get a decent hooker for 200 bucks. If a model turns off spies, it isn't usually becauase she is doing more than usual. It is to hide the fact she is not doing something special. In reality, a model that knows she can make more in private doing special things, doesn't hide this information. This is how she makes money. She doesn't turn off spies to keep from being recorded. Unless she is a moron, she knows that she can not trust anyone. Oh well, just my thoughts. Do not make it easy on scammers. Use your fucking head. This is their job. You are just money to them.

detboy · 2022-08-24 11:35

(2022-08-18 18:23)sjkjhasfkjhas Wrote: Also:

- curly_ginny
- dakota_ossa
- sav_anna
- scarlett_sageee
- babbysonfiree
- m_i_s_s_a
- yours_emma
- appr0ved
- silent_chill

They often create new rooms just for pair shows: I know dakota and scarlett use barbie_channel.

They can get nude, but they can't show their genitals or explicit acts of pornography. Some of the older models (babbysonfiree, yours_emma, scarlett_sageee) did do that in the past, but supposedly it's now a fireable offense. The studio became very spooked by the SWTBM raid.

For the moderators, some are definitely admins, but there's also a cabal of moderators who are all friends and ended up getting mod in most of their rooms. It's kinda like daffy_d and his friends in the STUDIO OF NON-NUDE SCAMMERS, but it's actually a different group:

- smoker919
- reswa432
- batman_is_dead
- raimond17
- cokeaddict77
- idizaster

You can tell who's an admin and who's a mod groupie based on how they interact with chat. The admins usually post the generic "tip this model pls" gifs, while the mod groupies either post model-specific gifs they made themselves, or just ignore the model and talk amongst themselves.

In terms of model quality: definitely feels like SWTBM redux. Some of them are absolutely gorgeous, but a lot of them would be a 5 or 6 on the street. But because they play shy, they get hundreds or thousands of viewers.

By the way, they have two studios:

- The generic beige/pink studio with mirrors, generic lights, a single plastic chair, and sometimes an adjacent shower
- A newer studio with neon lights, carpeting, and padded chairs

"They can get nude, but they can't show their genitals or explicit acts of pornography. Some of the older models (babbysonfiree, yours_emma, scarlett_sageee) did do that in the past, but supposedly it's now a fireable offense. The studio became very spooked by the SWTBM raid."

Victoria_Karmas studio is not associated with SWTBM but clearly modeled on them. There was a time SWTBM could get 3 or 4 of its girls on the front page of CB with hundreds if not thousands of viewers, and the other camgirls and studios did notice them obviously. My guess is SWTBM studio raid is probably targeted at tax evasion, as exactly what is and isn't "illegal pornography" is hazy in Russia. It makes sense, police monitor the largest russian cam studios on CB. Get a good idea of what they are taking in terms of tokens per day. Identify some girls and track down the studio, then raid and take all the money and jail the studio bosses for good PR.

There was another prominent studio raid before SWTBM, vr_studio, based in krasnoyarsk where 8a8y_nura among many others used to work. https://www.camwhores.tv/videos/6405361/...id-part-1/ In that video there is a view of a whiteboard with some of their business model on it Smile

It's the untaxed money made by the studio bosses more than the girls/pornography itself that was targetted.

So my point is while this new studio may be right in fearing a raid. But it doesn't matter what the girls do or do not show. If they just had girls in rooms, doing mainly explicit private shows like all the other studios, they would probably be fine, it's the big public 1000 plus viewer extended public shows girls like eli_sun can achieve that gets the studio attention of the authorities.

ohnoyetanotherusername · 2022-08-24 11:39

I do not think there is a safe way to evade a raid for a Russian cam studio. It can always happen for whatever reason.

I definitely not believe that police have a "pussy on cam" detector.

detboy · 2022-08-24 12:55

(2022-08-24 11:39)ohnoyetanotherusername Wrote: I do not think there is a safe way to evade a raid for a Russian cam studio. It can always happen for whatever reason.

I definitely not believe that police have a "pussy on cam" detector.

Sure, but the Russian authorities aren't going to bother unless there is clearly a big operation and a lot of money being made. So the bigger and more obviously successful the studio, the more likely it's going to be raided. Both for PR reasons (see the video of a raid I posted), and for the money that can be confiscated.

An individual girl, or a small studio? Not worth the effort.

CamPorn Freak · 2022-09-12 18:22

Sabrina_Macey
NudeShower - BestBits - 2022-09-12

Hopefully it looks like the Studio have stopped with the Fuckin Shower Ticket shows,
and gone back to the way it was before bloody MISSA joined them.
Lets hope it stays this way

Apart from the very beginning I have cut out as much non nude parts I as I can from her 1 and Half hour shower show, got it down to just over 50 minutes.
Enjoy


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https://nobodyhome.tv/thread-10637-post-...pid4074986

CamPorn Freak · 2022-09-13 15:00

S_A_R_M_A
New Girl / Woman at Mirror Studios

The show made me giggle as some of the guys were ripping in to the Mods for being useless,
Constantly begging for tips and not tipping a cent themselves.
Anyway, I originally thought the shower show was going to close early due to none tipping,
but then it started to get good.


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https://nobodyhome.tv/thread-10637-post-...pid4075450

CamPorn Freak · 2022-09-14 18:00

Miu_Mur
aka Santa_M0nika / E_L_O_D_I_E
anyone interested in her Shower show,

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it's better than the one I posted when camming as E_L_O_D_I_E
(https://nobodyhome.tv/thread-10637-post-...pid4025043)

I know she's not new and this is at least her 3rd name at the studio.
It's about 2 1/2 hours long, so going to take time to edit and get it posted.

If there is interest, then I'll do it.

CamPorn Freak · 2022-09-26 9:55

Marti_Lass
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Looks very much like the lovely JennaGale
(from about 3 years ago)
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The back tattoo will probably give it away.
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just have to wait for that top to come off.

CamPorn Freak · 2022-09-26 10:36

Marti_Lass
Yep, definitely Jenna Gale

Nice HandBra with some Tits in the mirror
Not new to the world of Camming, Cammed as Jenna Gale about 3 years ago.


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Nice Video I found elsewhere


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https://nobodyhome.tv/thread-10637-post-...pid4081935

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