2022-03-15 18:18
Why did Russian girls disappear from websites two weeks ago?
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2022-03-15 18:33
2022-03-15 18:33
Most of the girls are from Ukraine, but say there from Russia. Plus lot of them are having hard time getting paid now with everything going on!
2022-03-15 18:43
(2022-03-15 18:18)squeem Wrote: Why did Russian girls disappear from websites two weeks ago?
Just read the news how difficult it has become to do international banking transactions in russia. Girls who work from home have almost no chance anymore, streamate can no longer pay them. Only the big studios that are close to lj can work like before
2022-03-15 18:58
Some Russian models are, supposedly, relocating to other countries. I think there is some new law requiring most money, earned in dollars, to be converted to rubles.
2022-03-15 19:33
2022-03-15 21:01
(2022-03-15 19:55)lazzarev Wrote:(2022-03-15 18:43)svenni1975 Wrote:(2022-03-15 18:18)squeem Wrote: Why did Russian girls disappear from websites two weeks ago?
Just read the news how difficult it has become to do international banking transactions in russia. Girls who work from home have almost no chance anymore, streamate can no longer pay them. Only the big studios that are close to lj can work like before
Again, almost nobody cares about Streamate or LiveJasmin in Russia. They are considered as secondary platforms mostly used by grannies (camgirls older than 23 years old).
Russian Studios and Models can get their money using cryptocurrencies, Russian wallets and (for example) Tinkoff cards to withdraw.
No major issues have been reported on Chaturbate, StripChat, Camsoda, Cam4 and SkyPrivate so far.
And please stop talking about "big studios" when you cannot not even define what a "big studio" is.
I did not talk only about big studios, but studios who have close connection to jasmin
There are livejasmin certified partner studios...one example here
https://www.studio20.live/news/studio-20...world.html
There is a site where all of them are listed, but i don't find this at the moment. They have still possibiities to pay the girls
2022-03-15 21:23
As I mentioned some time ago, for most of you Chaturbate, Stripchat, MFC or whatever is the nonplusultra. And I still wonder why? Girls from studios? 
It's just a job for them to get your Tokens 
I will always prefer 'independent' girls broadcasting from their home, like most on Bongacams. And as far as I can tell, they are still 'alive'. At least most of them 
It's just a job for them to get your Tokens I will always prefer 'independent' girls broadcasting from their home, like most on Bongacams. And as far as I can tell, they are still 'alive'. At least most of them
2022-03-15 21:28
(2022-03-15 21:23)Alzbeth Wrote: As I mentioned some time ago, for most of you Chaturbate, Stripchat, MFC or whatever is the nonplusultra. And I still wonder why? Girls from studios?
Of course, all girls, no matter which site, are only online to earn money/tokens/credits. But the sanctions have made it harder for some to exchange foreign currencies. And I suppose studios have it easier, but I have no experience with Bongacams
2022-03-15 21:45
(2022-03-15 21:28)svenni1975 Wrote:(2022-03-15 21:23)Alzbeth Wrote: As I mentioned some time ago, for most of you Chaturbate, Stripchat, MFC or whatever is the nonplusultra. And I still wonder why? Girls from studios?
Of course, all girls, no matter which site, are only online to earn money/tokens/credits. But the sanctions have made it harder for some to exchange foreign currencies. And I suppose studios have it easier, but I have no experience with Bongacams
Like I said, 80 -90% of the russian or even ukrainian girls on Bongacams are still broadcasting. And as far as I can tell they don't seem to be very sad or desperate. Maybe it's really because they are 'independent'? Who knows
2022-03-15 22:36
(This post was last modified: 2022-03-15 22:48 by svenni1975.)
(2022-03-15 22:04)lazzarev Wrote:(2022-03-15 21:01)svenni1975 Wrote:(2022-03-15 19:55)lazzarev Wrote: Again, almost nobody cares about Streamate or LiveJasmin in Russia. They are considered as secondary platforms mostly used by grannies (camgirls older than 23 years old).
Russian Studios and Models can get their money using cryptocurrencies, Russian wallets and (for example) Tinkoff cards to withdraw.
No major issues have been reported on Chaturbate, StripChat, Camsoda, Cam4 and SkyPrivate so far.
And please stop talking about "big studios" when you cannot not even define what a "big studio" is.
I did not talk only about big studios, but studios who have close connection to jasmin
There are livejasmin certified partner studios...one example here
https://www.studio20.live/news/studio-20...world.html
There is a site where all of them are listed, but i don't find this at the moment. They have still possibiities to pay the girls
The (certified) studios working on LJ are mainly Romanian studios with locations in Bucarest and around. I assume it's easy to make the difference between Romanian and Russian models isn't it ? If you are confused about this... RIP man
By the way, Russian studios are listed on sites such as webcam-studio.ru.
I know what I have spoken to russian girls from those certified lj studios in russia who continue to receive their money for this reason. But it's too stupid for me to convince a know-it-all -guy like you. Have a good time
2022-03-16 13:04
Is there any news and is it related to the war?
I guess we won't see many Russian modele for long time
I guess we won't see many Russian modele for long time
2022-03-16 19:31
I'm not sure why did you start this topic but your statement does not correlate with reality.
May be you should be more specific with your intent
Are you trying to find a particular model?
May be you should be more specific with your intent
Are you trying to find a particular model?
2022-03-16 23:58
(This post was last modified: 2022-03-17 0:00 by tabula_rasa.)
(2022-03-16 19:31)vasil Wrote: I'm not sure why did you start this topic but your statement does not correlate with reality.I agree.
I’m starting to suspect that most of these posts (on this forum and others) expressing concern for Russian models are actually troll posts. Here are some of the things I’ve noticed.
If someone creates a thread but doesn’t really participate in their own thread, just how concerned are they?
And if someone professes concern about Russian models disappearing from the Internet, but seems to hate Russians and favors Ukrainians instead, then all I can say is, it must suck to be you, when there is so much Ukrainian pussy available on the cam sites, but you go chasing after Russian pussy instead while hating the Russian people.
Most of the models I follow are Russian. And I haven’t noticed any exodus of Russian models from cam sites. All the girls I followed before are still working.
The only site that I personally know won’t pay Russian models is Streamate. And that’s obviously a political decision. There’s enough loopholes in the SWIFT sanctions that a cam site can find a way to pay Russian models if they want to. Streamate doesn’t want to. So now I follow those models on other sites, and Streamate no longer gets my money.
And as lazzarev said, in addition to their cam site earnings, some models also have simps who send them thousands of dollars at a time through direct payments. Literally free money. Russian models, and especially independent Russian models, are probably better positioned to survive economic sanctions than most Russians. They're not going to disappear from the internet.
2022-03-17 4:06
(2022-03-16 23:58)tabula_rasa Wrote:(2022-03-16 19:31)vasil Wrote: I'm not sure why did you start this topic but your statement does not correlate with reality.I agree.
I’m starting to suspect that most of these posts (on this forum and others) expressing concern for Russian models are actually troll posts. Here are some of the things I’ve noticed.
If someone creates a thread but doesn’t really participate in their own thread, just how concerned are they?
And if someone professes concern about Russian models disappearing from the Internet, but seems to hate Russians and favors Ukrainians instead, then all I can say is, it must suck to be you, when there is so much Ukrainian pussy available on the cam sites, but you go chasing after Russian pussy instead while hating the Russian people.
Most of the models I follow are Russian. And I haven’t noticed any exodus of Russian models from cam sites. All the girls I followed before are still working.
The only site that I personally know won’t pay Russian models is Streamate. And that’s obviously a political decision. There’s enough loopholes in the SWIFT sanctions that a cam site can find a way to pay Russian models if they want to. Streamate doesn’t want to. So now I follow those models on other sites, and Streamate no longer gets my money.
And as lazzarev said, in addition to their cam site earnings, some models also have simps who send them thousands of dollars at a time through direct payments. Literally free money. Russian models, and especially independent Russian models, are probably better positioned to survive economic sanctions than most Russians. They're not going to disappear from the internet.
Wait.. Whats the going rate for being a simple amd what do you get out of it? This sounds like an adventure
2022-03-17 4:17
(2022-03-17 4:06)Badbadme Wrote: Wait.. Whats the going rate for being a simple amd what do you get out of it? This sounds like an adventureHave you ever heard the saying, “You can’t con an honest person?”
From what I’ve observed, these idiots usually think they can buy their way into a model’s life, or at least into her panties. So they throw money at her, pay her living expenses, send her on trips, in the hope that eventually the model will meet them somewhere.
The model plays along and strings them along, makes them think they have a special friendship / long distance romance. So it’s basically willing self-deception on the part of these idiots. I know of one case where the guy was sending thousands of dollars every month.
(2022-03-17 4:17)tabula_rasa Wrote:(2022-03-17 4:06)Badbadme Wrote: Wait.. Whats the going rate for being a simple amd what do you get out of it? This sounds like an adventureHave you ever heard the saying, “You can’t con an honest person?”
From what I’ve observed, these idiots usually think they can buy their way into a model’s life, or at least into her panties. So they throw money at her, pay her living expenses, send her on trips, in the hope that eventually the model will meet them somewhere.
The model plays along and strings them along, makes them think they have a special friendship / long distance romance. So it’s basically willing self-deception on the part of these idiots. I know of one case where the guy was sending thousands of dollars every month.
Ah I was hoping for something more exciting than self delusion. I've been a simp before then... Wouldn't recommend. In my defense it didn't believe the romance part. Was just dumb enough to think friendzone would be fun. $3k US in 5 months convinced me otherwise.
2022-03-17 6:43
(2022-03-16 22:24)lazzarev Wrote:(2022-03-15 22:36)svenni1975 Wrote: I know what I have spoken to russian girls from those certified lj studios in russia who continue to receive their money for this reason. But it's too stupid for me to convince a know-it-all -guy like you. Have a good time
Come on man, I was joking. Don't take it so personally. If you want to convince a know-it-all asshole like me, provide sources that are strongly related to this topic and your own arguments. You gave me a link to a Romanian well-known studio to talk about Russian certified studios on LJ, I assumed you wanted to be slapped
That said, I don't think LJ is actually representative of (Russian) state of camming industry these days.
Russian models get paid by various ways, including off website payments from Western "lovers". No matter what happens with this world, they won't have to face starvation anytime soon.
Sorry, ur right and my post was not entirely well founded. The girls who told me about this, are from russian locations of Victory-Studio and I've seen somewhere that Victory-Studio is one of these certified lj-partners, but ofc works not only in Russia but in several countries. But i will not look for sources now, there are other posts with better informations than mine.
2022-03-17 21:21
(2022-03-17 19:36)lazzarev Wrote:(2022-03-17 4:23)Badbadme Wrote: Ah I was hoping for something more exciting than self delusion. I've been a simp before then... Wouldn't recommend. In my defense it didn't believe the romance part. Was just dumb enough to think friendzone would be fun. $3k US in 5 months convinced me otherwise.
Thousands Western users are in this deep shit every day dude. I need to make it clear for all of you (again): Russian camgirls are looking for money, not for a man to fuck or marry. Cam sites are not dating sites. No matter how cool you think you are or how much money you will throw, in the end of the day, you will remain a foreigner and mostly a pervert in their eyes, because this is how all this shit started.
It doesn't mean you can't meet some of them (e.g in SPB) and be their guest for some days (although it's comprised now)...as long as you forget about the deep friendship, romance or sex part, you will be fine.
With money you can buy her interest, her smile, laugh and tears... but you won't buy her friendship or love, and it won't turn you into a giant sex toy. Be honest to yourself and forget about all that shit. It's not going to happen.
Stay safe at home and keep on wanking on some of the most beautiful women in the world while you still can.
No doubt. I'm dumb and learn life lessons the hard way most of the time. That $3k was one of them. It was fun, but exactly as you would describe. As soon as the money stopped so did the friendship. Stupid is as stupid does.
2022-03-18 3:40
(2022-03-17 21:21)Badbadme Wrote:(2022-03-17 19:36)lazzarev Wrote:(2022-03-17 4:23)Badbadme Wrote: Ah I was hoping for something more exciting than self delusion. I've been a simp before then... Wouldn't recommend. In my defense it didn't believe the romance part. Was just dumb enough to think friendzone would be fun. $3k US in 5 months convinced me otherwise.
Thousands Western users are in this deep shit every day dude. I need to make it clear for all of you (again): Russian camgirls are looking for money, not for a man to fuck or marry. Cam sites are not dating sites. No matter how cool you think you are or how much money you will throw, in the end of the day, you will remain a foreigner and mostly a pervert in their eyes, because this is how all this shit started.
It doesn't mean you can't meet some of them (e.g in SPB) and be their guest for some days (although it's comprised now)...as long as you forget about the deep friendship, romance or sex part, you will be fine.
With money you can buy her interest, her smile, laugh and tears... but you won't buy her friendship or love, and it won't turn you into a giant sex toy. Be honest to yourself and forget about all that shit. It's not going to happen.
Stay safe at home and keep on wanking on some of the most beautiful women in the world while you still can.
No doubt. I'm dumb and learn life lessons the hard way most of the time. That $3k was one of them. It was fun, but exactly as you would describe. As soon as the money stopped so did the friendship. Stupid is as stupid does.
I have ongoing "friendships" with 4 ex cam girls.... 3 russian and one Ukranian
One is 23, hasn't cammed in 2 years, is going to school now, and is definitely in love with me. She texts me every day, we Skype at least once a week, and she sends me lots of pics and videos. She is convinced that we are soulmates and is somehow OK with me being married. I do help her with some $$$ occasionally, but it is maybe $500/year. Amazing tits
One is 29, hasn;t cammed in 4 years, we message weekly and Skype about once a month... but we are strictly platonic now. We mostly Skype so she can practice her english. She has a boyfriend who hates me and pretty sucessful career now too. She is actually one of my very closest friends as we talk about shit we'd never talk about with other people. I actually found this site helping her remve her videos andf pics off the internet
One is 20 and just quit camming and we started emailing
The final one must 30+ now and hasn;t cammed in years, and we just check in with each other occasionally. She is the httest girl I have ever seen. She used to play the "we have a special connection" game with me when I saw her camming, and I'd just laugh and tell I didn;t trust cam girls. Then she quit, and sent me her email in message in streamate, and turns out she really did like me!
You won;t buy their friendship and love, but if you're just a good person, they can be god people to you too
2022-03-21 15:46
(2022-03-16 13:04)squeem Wrote: Is there any news and is it related to the war?
I guess we won't see many Russian modele for long time
Many Russian models are struggling to get paid. Some are continuing to work as some studios eg Jasmin, have guaranteed to pay the girls as soon as they are able to, once sanctions are eased.
Some studios banned any models or studios known to be from Russia as soon as the west imposed sanctions. The Sites know where the studios or independent models are.
2022-03-21 19:49
(2022-03-21 8:23)OiBoobies Wrote: You guys probably haven't seen a real simp. There is this one guy on https://chaturbate.com/kartnissevergreen/ that tips 50k tokens every time the model is on public chat (approximately 4 times a week according to cbhours)
Her goal is usually 1,000 tokens and it's reached 50 times per day. And there's only one guy tipping. Her average visitors is only around 50.
1,000 tokens is $80.
That's $4,000 per day or $64,000 per month. Insane!
maybe criminals cleaning money
2022-03-21 21:17
(2022-03-21 18:24)lazzarev Wrote:(2022-03-21 15:46)Altruist Wrote: Many Russian models are struggling to get paid. Some are continuing to work as some studios eg Jasmin, have guaranteed to pay the girls as soon as they are able to, once sanctions are eased.
Meanwhile, Stripchat supports Ukrainian models with a $500,000+ donation.
Its not StripChats fault that large cities in Ukraine are being bombed so models there aren't safe - never mind whether they can cam or not.
2022-03-22 4:18
(2022-03-18 15:56)lazzarev Wrote:(2022-03-18 3:40)hemingway77 Wrote: You won;t buy their friendship and love, but if you're just a good person, they can be god people to you too
If you are a normal person (Who the hell are you to tell you are a good person ? Who is not ? Be humble about yourself dude !) they probably won't bit you. Just like normal humans in general: if you treat people politely, with minimal respect and dignity, they will probably treat you the same way... unless they are suffering deep mental disorder.
Now if you really think you are their friend or soulmate (come on man !) then you should ask them for money too (because shit happens right ? friends help each other right ?! A friendship is not supposed to be unidirectional !) or just try to meet them IRL - just start by talking about it seriously - try to invade their real social space and life, try to cross that line and you will see what happens.
Also they left camming, that's nice...they eventually accepted to enter adult life, found a real work and/or got married, got kids...became more mature. Do you really think they want that camming past to remain or surface ever again because of you ? Are you sure of this ? Do not forget they all are very young women, they say a lot of things and make choices but don't know so much about life.
Put yourself in their position for a minute to realize there is no room for you in all that shit man. You are just a dirty secret on their phone and they will deny knowing you.
In addition to this, you obviously don't realize there is an ocean between you and them in terms of culture. You are probably not a Russian speaker, you did not grow there, never lived there. You know absolutely nothing about them except what you saw through a screen and filtered messages, as well as Western propaganda.
You just made your own assumptions based on your Western world foundations, even worse, based on a purely virtual and transactional (money based) relationship over years.
I just feel sad for you and how your loneliness strongly pushed you to construct such illusions. I hope you will find a way out to connect again with reality. If I was a friend of yours, I would slap the hell out of you until you fucking wake up and open your eyes.
LOL... you are making of a lot assumptions. I have met one of them IRL and I am not constructing illusions. I have had friendships with them for years with no money involved. Western propaganda? WTF are you talking about? You are clearly being fed eastern prpangda ha ha
I am married and my wife was diagnosed with cancer in 2017. I am far from lonely, and the only reasn I even went to a camsite is because my wife and I didn;t have sex for 3 years when she was sick. I do in fact have very real relationships with multiple girls that cammed or are camming. Sorry you can;t experience the same
2022-03-22 4:42
(2022-03-18 3:40)hemingway77 Wrote: I have ongoing "friendships" with 4 ex cam girls.... 3 russian and one UkranianI didn't want to point out the obvious, but you have given a good example of the self-deception I mentioned before. One reason the 23 year old doesn't care that you are married is because you "help her with some $$$ occasionally". This is a transactional relationship. You've now given a second reason elsewhere, but I'll let that pass without comment.
One is 23, hasn't cammed in 2 years, is going to school now, and is definitely in love with me. She texts me every day, we Skype at least once a week, and she sends me lots of pics and videos. She is convinced that we are soulmates and is somehow OK with me being married. I do help her with some $$$ occasionally, but it is maybe $500/year. Amazing tits
One is 29, hasn;t cammed in 4 years, we message weekly and Skype about once a month... but we are strictly platonic now. We mostly Skype so she can practice her english. She has a boyfriend who hates me and pretty sucessful career now too. She is actually one of my very closest friends as we talk about shit we'd never talk about with other people. I actually found this site helping her remve her videos andf pics off the internet
One is 20 and just quit camming and we started emailing
The final one must 30+ now and hasn;t cammed in years, and we just check in with each other occasionally. She is the httest girl I have ever seen. She used to play the "we have a special connection" game with me when I saw her camming, and I'd just laugh and tell I didn;t trust cam girls. Then she quit, and sent me her email in message in streamate, and turns out she really did like me!
You won;t buy their friendship and love, but if you're just a good person, they can be god people to you too
The 29 year old, you "mostly Skype so she can practice her english". Again, this is a transactional relationship. Paying for English lessons with a native speaker is expensive.
I think I've said enough.
Just want to make a point:
Its true that Russian models are facing problems because studios create problems to models. There is always an option to convert your money into crypto and get paid.
Studio bosses are aware of it but not models, even check Ruble price to USD and its a bonus for these studio bosses
Also talking about Ukranian models, most of their transactions happen from Russia and same Russian bosses run studios in Ukraine
Now that sites are running offers to ukraine models but the benefits are going to bosses, not models
Often lot of these girls are caught in scams with blackmails.
Often many girls think that they can learn english this way.
And we might think why some models are never naked, its because their have dreams to get into army or sports or govt law boards
And the funny part is even girls who worked as cops also work on these cam sites
I am just talking about Russia and Ukraine, studios make millions and whereas girls are given daily and weekly goals. Some are made to suffer so much that they even cry at times. Thats why we see some girls leaving studios soon and start working from home
in fact studio admins or some clever girls still take commissions from girls who work from home too
I know all these because I have made many good friends, its not just about sex but its also about keeping the girl happy being around them
Its true that Russian models are facing problems because studios create problems to models. There is always an option to convert your money into crypto and get paid.
Studio bosses are aware of it but not models, even check Ruble price to USD and its a bonus for these studio bosses
Also talking about Ukranian models, most of their transactions happen from Russia and same Russian bosses run studios in Ukraine
Now that sites are running offers to ukraine models but the benefits are going to bosses, not models
Often lot of these girls are caught in scams with blackmails.
Often many girls think that they can learn english this way.
And we might think why some models are never naked, its because their have dreams to get into army or sports or govt law boards
And the funny part is even girls who worked as cops also work on these cam sites
I am just talking about Russia and Ukraine, studios make millions and whereas girls are given daily and weekly goals. Some are made to suffer so much that they even cry at times. Thats why we see some girls leaving studios soon and start working from home
in fact studio admins or some clever girls still take commissions from girls who work from home too
I know all these because I have made many good friends, its not just about sex but its also about keeping the girl happy being around them
2022-03-22 22:14
(2022-03-21 21:55)lazzarev Wrote:(2022-03-21 21:17)TheHoward Wrote: Its not StripChats fault that large cities in Ukraine are being bombed so models there aren't safe - never mind whether they can cam or not.
And it's not Russian camgirls fault that large cities in Ukraine are getting bombed is it ?
You previously have said that there has been no issue with Russian models getting paid so what would be the point of Stripchat sending them money?
Are they being bombed in Moscow? I may have missed that headline since, you know as a foreigner I am not in Russia and privy to the lifestyle there or Russian propaganda.
2022-03-22 22:22
(This post was last modified: 2022-03-22 22:22 by tabula_rasa.)
(2022-03-22 22:14)TheHoward Wrote: Are they being bombed in Moscow? I may have missed that headline since, you know as a foreigner I am not in Russia and privy to the lifestyle there or Russian propaganda.
They are being bombed economically, due to sanctions. It is wrong to punish individual civilians for the actions of their government.
2022-03-22 22:37
(2022-03-22 22:22)tabula_rasa Wrote:(2022-03-22 22:14)TheHoward Wrote: Are they being bombed in Moscow? I may have missed that headline since, you know as a foreigner I am not in Russia and privy to the lifestyle there or Russian propaganda.
They are being bombed economically, due to sanctions. It is wrong to punish individual civilians for the actions of their government.
You stated they were still being paid in various ways by cam sites and that you haven't noticed any still not camming.
So your previous statements imply sanctions are not affecting Russian models. Can you make up your mind?
2022-03-22 22:44
(2022-03-22 22:37)TheHoward Wrote:I did not say sanctions are not affecting Russian models. Sanctions are affecting everyone, in all nations. If you don't realize this, you need an education in economics.(2022-03-22 22:22)tabula_rasa Wrote:(2022-03-22 22:14)TheHoward Wrote: Are they being bombed in Moscow? I may have missed that headline since, you know as a foreigner I am not in Russia and privy to the lifestyle there or Russian propaganda.
They are being bombed economically, due to sanctions. It is wrong to punish individual civilians for the actions of their government.
You stated they were still being paid in various ways by cam sites and that you haven't noticed any still not camming.
So your previous statements imply sanctions are not affecting Russian models. Can you make up your mind?
Being paid is only part of the issue. Having your currency lose value due to sanctions is also important.